Michelin Defender LTX M/S2
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edyvw
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Not designed for any of those things.
M/S is on the tire. This is not “off road” I am talking aboot. As in dirt roads. Or any measurable snow or ice. It certainly is designed for that, with that rating on the tire. Even backing up on grass, tire spins very easily. Sometimes even without throttle input
edyvw
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M/S designates that it has passed the standardized test. Whether that is enough or not is a different story. I for example have three sets of snow tires and don't drive in winters on anything that is not actual snow tire, including Defender's.
What is with dirt roads? I mean I did off-roading with Defender M/S and they are good. Are they designed to spend all their life on dirt roads? No. Probably, the E-rated one is a better choice, or the Michelin A/T2 with harder blocks. But considering the popularity of tire among construction companies, I would say they fair well in mixed usage.
I don’t exclusively ride on dirt roads. Probably 150 miles a year. I am not buying dedicated snow tires for an F350. If it has the MS tag on the tire it should be able to handle a small about of each. In my application, it does not work well enough for me to buy them again.
That being said they are quiet, good highway tire
That being said they are quiet, good highway tire
edyvw
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It does handle small amount of snow. I purposely have tires like that bcs. we get snow in May or September/October when conditions don’t justify snow tire.
I would say it is wrong match for F350. But then, I have never seen just M+S tire that is good in snow. In my vocabulary they are all junk.
This is a helpful quantifier for me as I’ve experienced that trying to reposition trailers in grass, tire spinning without throttle.
And I say that as a guy personally responsible for a grand total of 4 Michelin set purchases within my household and 2 others.
you seem to be missing the big picture of the point to trying to make. But that’s fine.
Same type of situations for me. I need to put it in 4 x 4 much too often for such little maneuvers where it should not be needed at all.
We had a good bit of snow here (for the region) 2 years ago. My son has mtx m/s2 on his 4R and I had continental ATs on my F150. We both drove both vehicles here in about 7-9 inches in 2 and 4. I wanted him to experience snow and also appreciated getting a feel for the tires. The continentals were quite good, very usable and the Michelins went 10% better, especially in braking. No question they have good snow cred. Both trucks did fine in 2WD and both could manage rather steep grades as long as momentum was conserved.
I’ve also experienced the “spinning in grass” which does call for a little bit different tread design.
edyvw
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Sure, yeah.
I don't have any issues with them on 8% drive way with RWD light rear end in snow.
But then, you seem to not understand what is standardized M+S testing. But that is fine.
edyvw
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They are really not designed for any serious snow performance. There are people who make all kind if claims about them as being “as good in snow as snow tire.” It is far from reality. They are a OK to get away with it. Their rain performance limits them to be useful in very slick situations in snow. And that is where maybe is the issue on grass.
First post…Didn't realize there was any discussion of tires for sedans in this thread...
f355spider
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Yes, but he is specifically wanting to install an all season light truck tire on his SOUL. Isn't a SOUL considered an SUV? Or a "light" SUV?First post…
I've never considered it a sedan.
Its a 5’ overall height, front-wheel-drive vehicle with 6.5” of ground clearance, an heavily sloping roofline and a large notoriety for H/K rod-throwing. Other than the dancing gerbil commercials, IMO, not much “sport” or “utility” goin on in that corner.
f355spider
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Well, he specifically is asking for a truck tire for this "sedan" not what one would normally consider for such a car...so sedan tires were not under his consideration.
Michelin Defender 2 would be the tire for the Soul.
It's considered a Compact Utility Vehicle ( C.U.V. ) . In other words a hatchback . Have been driving them for about 40 years . A hard habit to break .
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Considering that .
The Defender LTX M/S2 would be fine on the SOUL or a sedan .
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I would pick the Yokohama Avid Ascend GT over the Defender 2.
Yokohama: 740AA
Defender 2: 840BB