MC 0W-20 SynBlend FF, 2200 mi, 13 Mustang 5.0

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This car is my DD with a pretty easy 15 mile commute to work every day. I got a free oil change from the dealership so it was refilled with some more MC 0W-20. I haven't decided what to use for the next change yet. The OLM appears to be trending towards the full 10k mi OCI but I'll probably change it around 8k just for grins.

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If the oil will last to. 10000 miles,and uoa proves that,then what exactly do you feel you are gaining by changing it early.
Read the articles on the bitog homepage by Dnewton. Enlightening info.
And throw your money away if you like. I'm confident its not going to help re-sale value.
 
Look at the viscosity after only 2,000 miles it's getting near the lower limit. Will this last until 5,000 miles are people running this to 10,000 miles.

eddie
 
Originally Posted By: EddieCairns
Look at the viscosity after only 2,000 miles it's getting near the lower limit. Will this last until 5,000 miles are people running this to 10,000 miles.

eddie


That's what I was thinking considering the oil was only in service for 2,200 miles. It might last for 5,000 miles, but would it last for 10K? That is one tough call. I realize TBN [which wasn't taken] drop isn't linear, etc., but this UOA has me scratching my head with it staying in grade if the OCI is stretched too far.
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Pennz Ultra or PP 5w30 in my 5.0 coyote. M/C 5w20 oil is okay, but there is better oil out there, for me at least... Mine is not a DD. Gets driven for fun and that means it gets rev'ed often. I have only had this car for 6 months. I may put 5 to 6k miles a year on it, prob just go with the OLM and change when I am told to by the car. She should know when the time is right to change.
 
Smart to change the oil a little early and get all of the metal particles out from the engine break-in.
 
This thing has an 8qt sump does it not? That should make a considerable difference and give you a lot of headroom. Besides, an oil change of that amount is a considerable expense. You want to have the appropriate oil change interval down by the time you have to start paying for it yourself.

I'm sampling, not changing my Ford, to get a feel of whether I can trust the oil life guesser. I assume its relatively easy for the OLM to guess a change if you have a prosaic driving pattern. It might be right just out of happenstance. The challenge to their algorithm is for us outliers.

There's no need to try to go to the bitter end every oil change, but adopting an absurdly short interval with that size sump would get pretty expensive.
 
Originally Posted By: Nate1979
I'm not sure anything was learned from this UOA without TBN.

You think the TBN would have been deleted in 2,200 miles?
We know the oil was changed early but I have no problem with that.

The viscosity loss is nothing to be concerned about particularly for the way the car is driven. Oil shear often occurs early then stabilizes.
 
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Originally Posted By: Nate1979
I'm not sure anything was learned from this UOA without TBN.

You think the TBN would have been deleted in 2,200 miles?
We know the oil was changed early but I have no problem with that.

The viscosity loss is nothing to be concerned about particularly for the way the car is driven. Oil shear often occurs early then stabilizes.


No, of course not. My point was more to the point that an UOA of a FF can not tell anything about the capability of the oil to perform properly. I have no problem with someone spending the money on UOA's of FF but there is nothing to be learned about the oil or health of the engine so early in its life.
 
Originally Posted By: Clevy
If the oil will last to. 10000 miles,and uoa proves that,then what exactly do you feel you are gaining by changing it early.
Read the articles on the bitog homepage by Dnewton. Enlightening info.
And throw your money away if you like. I'm confident its not going to help re-sale value.


I have no qualms pushing the OCI to the full 10k mile OCI recommended by Ford if the UOAs show it to be appropriate. The 2200 mile change this time around was intended to get rid of some of the early wear metals. If I go with an 8k change next time around with the OLM showing some life left it will simply be to verify that the oil is holding up and to satisfy my own level of OCD.


Originally Posted By: volk06
You mean 5w-20 not 0w-20 as Ford has not made the switch yet


Yep, meant 5w-20 synthetic blend.


Originally Posted By: jimbrewer
This thing has an 8qt sump does it not? That should make a considerable difference and give you a lot of headroom. Besides, an oil change of that amount is a considerable expense. You want to have the appropriate oil change interval down by the time you have to start paying for it yourself.

I'm sampling, not changing my Ford, to get a feel of whether I can trust the oil life guesser. I assume its relatively easy for the OLM to guess a change if you have a prosaic driving pattern. It might be right just out of happenstance. The challenge to their algorithm is for us outliers.

There's no need to try to go to the bitter end every oil change, but adopting an absurdly short interval with that size sump would get pretty expensive.


Yes, the 8 qt sump on this car is bigger than any I've ever owned. While I don't plan on doing routine 2200 mile OCIs I will likely do a UOA with each change which is probably just as absurd, but once again satisfies my level of OCD. It'll be interesting to see how much the amount of "spirited driving" affects the UOAs as well as the OLM readings.


Originally Posted By: Nate1979
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Originally Posted By: Nate1979
I'm not sure anything was learned from this UOA without TBN.

You think the TBN would have been deleted in 2,200 miles?
We know the oil was changed early but I have no problem with that.

The viscosity loss is nothing to be concerned about particularly for the way the car is driven. Oil shear often occurs early then stabilizes.


No, of course not. My point was more to the point that an UOA of a FF can not tell anything about the capability of the oil to perform properly. I have no problem with someone spending the money on UOA's of FF but there is nothing to be learned about the oil or health of the engine so early in its life.


I definitely wasn't expecting to get anything from this UOA other than a baseline for the next change. I plan on including the TBN next time around and have no problems pushing the oil to the full 10k interval after that if the UOA and OLM both point in that direction.
 
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