True but the barrier for making stupid range decisions with an EV is stupidly low unlike ICE.
Mach-E sales drop 40% - Fickle market
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I don't see it as any different, but that's also dependent on past experiences I'm sure. I've never ran myself out of gas and if the car is under 60% or cold I plug it in at home just to be safe. Yes, the precautions/procedures you use are different, but just like yesterday I did completely different things to my VW because it isn't electric. It got a new air filter, spark plugs, and DSG transmission service. I could easily just not do those things too and that could be the reason why I get stranded. Everything has its drawbacks, but those drawbacks are blown completely out of proportion in conversations like this because of the 0.1% outlier situations we concoct. It's obviously worth discussing because everyone's situation is different. For me in most directions I go if I had a low battery there would likely be an actual Tesla Supercharger I can use. Tesla preps the battery temp when you let it know that's where you are going via the GPS so it will be warm enough to charge when you get there.
Like I said the conversation is definitely worth having but eventually we just what if ourselves into the ground. All things take some sort of concession to make it work for us. We're just so used to how ICE vehicles work that we've made peace with it.
Sure, but the difference is there might not be a charging station in the area and there will most likely be a gas station or I can carry extra gas cans. Try getting your EV charged or fixed near Lake of the Woods or Red Lake in northern MN.
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If an EV doesn't work for you, don't buy one.
If you don't like EVs, don't buy one.
If you have no experience with EVs, you may not be an expert.
This is also true of cars with other drivetrains as well.
If you don't like EVs, don't buy one.
If you have no experience with EVs, you may not be an expert.
This is also true of cars with other drivetrains as well.
I think I know what's the problem with sales with the Mustang Mach-E. Since they are using the Chevy Chase Vacation theme to market it, it should have been called the Ford Wagon Queen Family Truckster. It's a lot closer to that modified LTD Wagon Country Squire used in the original Vacation movie than to any Mustang I've ever seen.
"You think you hate it now, but wait until you drive it."
"You think you hate it now, but wait until you drive it."
The thing is, it can be a hassle on a trip. It's far different because it requires planning and lots of waiting. Especially with non Tesla brands.
I drive far more than most. My regular 19 hour 1350 mile F150 trip FL to PA, (2 fuel stops in the 2011) (1 fuel stop in the 2018). I Stop when I am good and ready, and not a second sooner. 3 minutes to fill up, random restroom breaks. Any way you slice it, EV's are not that way.
It’s funny too that pretty much everyone in the US can totally forget about EVs for the next 10 years. Then, revisit the subject in 2033 and they’ll still have 2 more years to see if they work for them.
Have you read up on cold weather charging? There can be issues or it can be just fine.
Have you ever had a problem starting a car in -20?
Im from Chicago and I can definitely say I have, same when I lived in Montreal.
Without showing the route you cant say there is lack of charging - you are guessing.
Maybe you already looked it up?
We know the range reduction and it's between 16 and 30% on average - often times less than that on a trip.
You can die anywhere in a severe winter you arent prepared for.
EV's can keep an occupant warm a comparable amount of time to ice if not greater
No one died in an EV in the last squall here (Sierra Nevadas ) but several did in Ice cars.
Often times I reply to several prior threads in one reply.
No one can decide for anyone else if an EV will work for them.
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I rest my case. Take your own advice.
Im not the one that made this claim - Infrastructure for EV's is not there yet here.
You find me the infrastructure that you speak of in Northern MN.
Start with all the houses that have the ability to charge with 30-50 amps.
So as I'm driving through the area, I'll just stop by someone's house and ask if I can wire up an outlet and charge my vehicle?
Maybe you could try that - I wouldnt.
Start with a full battery at your house every day and see where the range gets you and whats in between to charge.
It may not work for you. Your neighbor may never have a problem.
You can only speak to your usage, just like I can only speak for mine.
GM'S volt study showed something like 80% of the US drivers commute something like 40 miles a day.
I have two trucks that tow - EV's may never be able to replace them, but a sedan or SUV would work fine for me on tow free trips.
One size doenst work for all.
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Then why are you arguing with me and telling me I am wrong about MN from CA?
I am speaking to what my own usage would be (and only ever spoke of mine) and you told me I was wrong.
There is not a robust charging network in this area and there are no charging facilities in many areas here, especially not in Northern MN, although you claim there is. I'll look next time I drive through the Red Lake Indian reservation though, maybe I was wrong.
There's not.
The worst hit I ever took in the cold was in my Mazda CX5 Turbo. It took Mazda over 2 years to drop an update that eliminated cold weather power loss, and it was substantial. I went from taking 6.5 or so seconds 0-60 to well over 10 seconds in weather under 20*F.
I never argued there was infrastructure there beyond ones house. You've claimed I have twice.
Maybe you dont qualify home charging as infrastructure?
I believe they don't work for you.
The range of the car itself may be fine for your next door neighbor
