I ceased being a fan immediately. My family was all about Fords, and I immediately saw the shortcomings of Ford even in the 1990's as a young teen, and embraced GM, because at that time, the LT1 and later LS1 were a thing, and all Ford had was the abandoned 5.0 cam-in-block (good motor, shoulda gone places) and the horrific "but new and exciting!" SOHC 4.6L and later DOHC 4.6L. It was just weak. We burned them out in about 220k miles on average. Hard driving, of course. It would be the late 2000's until I finally convinced my Dad to buy a GM powered vehicle...it lasted him 438K miles on the OEM engine/transmission until the body rotted out (he was hauling around a carpet cleaning machine, lots of water and chemicals all the time, not the trucks fault).
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Here is how to properly do EV as an evolution of your sporty vehicle...soon it will be all EV, but this is a great transition vehicle, like the SF90 Stradale.
https://www.chevrolet.com/upcoming-vehicles/2024-corvette-e-ray
https://www.chevrolet.com/upcoming-vehicles/2024-corvette-e-ray
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EV's are still mostly for the wealthy, and wealthy people don't drive Mustangs unless there Vintage 60's. Doesn't surprise me at all.
How are EV's "for the wealthy"?
4wd
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Because they cost $60K+. Usually only people who make in top quintile income bracket buy cars priced in that range. If there are outliers that is fine, but that is the marketing demographic.
I am in that bracket and I don't own one. I have lots of friends in that bracket also - none own mustangs. Lots of BMW, Porsche, Rover and many "normal" cars, but no Mustangs.
That's upper middle class not wealthy I'm thinkingA couple near me that actually own “domestic”
Yukon Denali XL (black and bc dealer dropped Caddy)
C8 Vette - blue
F150 4WD Platinum - silver
And drum roll please - that Bronco Sasq in the over ripe squash color
No EV’s … and safe to say any of the above will cost as much …
4wd
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Well, they could easily afford exotic cars - but buy what they consider American … Just not Tesla …
have acreage with cattle and gas production - lots of toys … other homes … offshore boats etc …
I don’t know the definition of wealthy - but don’t prefer the TV version …
No they don't.
Tesla model 3 after tax credit is in the 30's for example, and it's a VERY popular EV. If you live in the right part of the US, a base Tesla model 3 will cost you $32K after credits/rebates. That's less than the average new car.
I was unaware that anything not in the hood or trailer park qualified as "wealthy".
4wd
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VW had a couple of ID.4s with similar miles when I was there yesterday. I'm not sure if it's people wanting out of them or previous demos. I should have asked.
I think a lot of people bought whatever they could get their hands on, took the $7500, and flipped out of them and into what they wanted. That's kindof what I'm doing with my Volvo C40.
Around here there way more than that. Also, if you want to take advantage of the tax rebate you need to have a $7500K tax liability. For a family with a couple kids with tax credits, etc - thats well south of a gross income above six figures. And you still need to front the $7500. That gets most buyers pretty close to the fifth quintile, or the technical marketing definition of wealthy.
Mustangs are for blue collar single people. Thats the stereotypical demographic - again outliers excepted.
Why is it in this part of the forum that any comment that doesn't demand every person own a Tesla cause outrage?
Okay, so the price is $44K with zero incentives...
https://clark.com/cars/average-new-car-price/
I guess "average" is now "wealthy"....
