M1 5W30, no API Rating?

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I just realized my M1 5W30 does not bear an API S? Rating on the bottle or the site. Is this an oversight? What gives?
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http://www.mobil1.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_5w30.aspx
 
The website does state: "ILSAC GF-4 (API Certified - Starburst)". It is my understanding that GF-4 and SM are joined at the hip this go around.
 
I thought if an oil was actually "certified" by API it had to have the donut. Any oil can say it meets or exceeds the specs of an API service level. It is a starnge thing for Mobil though.
 
The other day I found a bottle of "Golden State" in the store and it is "SA". It scared the c*** outta me and start checking for API Donuts.
Sure hope it is an oversight by their marketing dept and my $5 M1 out perfroms the SA oil
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Is that the 15,000 mile oil?

I have a bottle of that on the shelf and also noticed it was not API. I use in my 2005 CTS which has Mobil 1 from factory till first oil change, 4,400 miles and 61% oil life remaining.

I suspose that to go for onger service intervals requires additives or amount of additives that API won't recognize due to them being synthetic. They apply same standars to dino and synthetic...

btw - API cert means nothing to me as long as its oil from well know brands, Mobil 1, Amsoil, Red Line, Royal Purple etc. They are not going to be putting out garbage.
 
Is it the Extended Performance M1? It doesn't carry the starburst on the front.The regular M1 is fully approved SM/GF4.
 
The odds of Mobil selling a non-API certified 5w30 to the general public is the same as everyone in your family getting strucked by lightning.
 
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Originally posted by farrarfan1:
Is it the Extended Performance M1? It doesn't carry the starburst on the front.The regular M1 is fully approved SM/GF4.

Standard issued M1
 
I have two cases of the new Mobil 1 that I bought months ago. It has API starburst on the front. Back has ILSAC GF-4 API SM,SL/CF API energy conserving doughnut with API Srervice SM. Again, IMO this is a bogus topic/thread.

Specifications & Approvals

Mobil 1 5w30 meets or exceeds the following industry specifications:

ACEA A1,B1
API SM, SL,SJ,EC,CF,CD
ILSAC GF-4


Mobil 1 5w30 has the following builder approvals:

General Motors Service Fill GM4718M
General Motors Factory Fill GM 6094M
Ford WSS- M2C929-A
Chrysler MS-6395


Ford WSS- M2C929-A requires API oil....so....

"SAE 5w30 with the API Certification Mark displayed is recommended for 2005 MY 4.0L V6 applications only. The Ford Engineering Material Specification for SAE 5w30 service fill oils is WSS-M2C929-A, which specifies ILSAC GF-4 requirements and the additional specifications beyond ILSAC GF-4 that are the same as SAE 5W-20".

SAE 5W-20 engine oil with the API Certification Mark displayed continues to be the oil recommended for most 2005 MY Ford vehicles and some Mazda vehicles. The Ford Engineering Material Specification for SAE 5W-20 service fill oil is WSS-M2C930-A, which specifies primarily ILSAC GF-4 requirements. In addition, VG follower pin and ring wear limits and the 30 mg TEOST limit are specified.

We continue to strongly promote the use of SAE 5W-20 for our customers. We also request the continued support of oil marketers to supply oil for our vehicles that follows the owner guide recommendation".

http://www.ilma.org/resources/fordltr_recommendations.pdf

[ July 23, 2005, 11:57 PM: Message edited by: tenderloin ]
 
Licensee is authorized to display the API Certification Mark on the following products during the period of May 1, 2005 through March 9, 2006:


License No Company Name
0020 EXXONMOBIL OIL CORPORATION


Brand Name/ SAE Viscosity Grade/ ILSAC Oil Specification/ Current ExpirationDate
ESSO UNIFLO 10w30 GF-4 March 9, 2006
ESSO UNIFLO 5w30 GF-4 March 9, 2006
EXXON SUPERFLO 10w30 GF-4 March 9, 2006
EXXON SUPERFLO 5W-20 GF-4 March 9, 2006
EXXON SUPERFLO 5w30 GF-4 March 9, 2006
MOBIL 1 0w30 GF-4 March 9, 2006
MOBIL 1 10w30 GF-4 March 9, 2006
MOBIL 1 5W-20 GF-4 March 9, 2006
MOBIL 1 5w30 GF-4 March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 10w30 GF-4 March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 5W-20 GF-4 March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 5w30 GF-4 March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 5000 10w30 GF-4 March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 5000 5W-20 GF-4 March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 5000 5w30 GF-4 March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 7500 10w30 GF-4 March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 7500 5W-20 GF-4 March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 7500 5w30 GF-4 March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN HIGH MILEAGE 10w30 GF-4 March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN HIGH MILEAGE 5w30 GF-4 March 9, 2006

---------------------------------------------------

Licensee is authorized to display the API Service Symbol on the following products during the period of May 1, 2005 through March 9, 2006:

Energy Conserving may be displayed only on products noted with an asterisk (*). CI-4 PLUS may be displayed only on products noted with a double asterisk (**).

Brand Name/ SAE Viscosity Grade/ Service Category/ Current Expiration Date
ESSO UNIFLO 10w30 SL* March 9, 2006
ESSO UNIFLO 10w30 SM* March 9, 2006
ESSO UNIFLO 10W-40 SL March 9, 2006
ESSO UNIFLO 5w30 SM* March 9, 2006
EXXON SUPERFLO 10w30 SM* March 9, 2006
EXXON SUPERFLO 5W-20 SM* March 9, 2006
EXXON SUPERFLO 5w30 SM* March 9, 2006
EXXON XD-3 10w30 CF,CF-4,CG-4,CH-4,CI-4/SL March 9, 2006
EXXON XD-3 15w40 CF,CF-4,CG-4,CH-4,CI-4/SL March 9, 2006
EXXON XD-3 20 CF March 9, 2006
EXXON XD-3 30 CF,CF-2 March 9, 2006
EXXON XD-3 40 CF,CF-2 March 9, 2006
EXXON XD-3 50 CF,CF-2 March 9, 2006
EXXON XD-3 ELITE 15w40 CF,CF-4,CG-4,CH-4,CI-4/SJ** March 9, 2006
EXXON XD-3 ELITE 15w40 CF,CF-4,CG-4,CH-4,CI-4/SL** March 9, 2006
EXXON XD-3 EXTRA 15w40 CF,CF-4,CG-4,CH-4,CI-4/SJ** March 9, 2006
EXXON XD-3 EXTRA 15w40 CF,CF-4,CG-4,CH-4,CI-4/SL** March 9, 2006
MOBIL 1 0w30 SM/CF* March 9, 2006
MOBIL 1 0W-40 SL/CF* March 9, 2006
MOBIL 1 10w30 SM/CF* March 9, 2006
MOBIL 1 5W-20 SM/CF* March 9, 2006
MOBIL 1 5w30 SM/CF* March 9, 2006
MOBIL 1 EXTENDED PERFORMANCE 10w30 SL/CF* March 9, 2006
MOBIL 1 EXTENDED PERFORMANCE 10W-40 SL/CF March 9, 2006
MOBIL 1 EXTENDED PERFORMANCE 15W-50 SM/CF March 9, 2006
MOBIL 1 EXTENDED PERFORMANCE 5w30 SL/CF* March 9, 2006
MOBIL 1 TRUCK & SUV 5W-40 CF,CF-4,CG-4,CH-4,CI-4/SJ** March 9, 2006
MOBIL 1 TRUCK & SUV 5W-40 CF,CF-4,CG-4,CH-4,CI-4/SL** March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 10w30 SM* March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 10W-40 SJ March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 10W-40 SL March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 20W-50 SJ March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 20W-50 SL March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 5W-20 SM* March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 5w30 SM* March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 5000 10w30 SM/CF* March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 5000 10W-40 SM/CF March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 5000 5W-20 SM/CF* March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 5000 5w30 SM/CF* March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 7500 10w30 SM/CF* March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 7500 5W-20 SM/CF* March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN 7500 5w30 SM/CF* March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN HIGH MILEAGE 10w30 SM/CF* March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN HIGH MILEAGE 10W-40 SM/CF March 9, 2006
MOBIL CLEAN HIGH MILEAGE 5w30 SM/CF* March 9, 2006
MOBIL DELVAC 1 5W-40 CF,CF-4,CG-4,CH-4,CI-4/SJ** March 9, 2006
MOBIL DELVAC 1 5W-40 CF,CF-4,CG-4,CH-4,CI-4/SL** March 9, 2006
MOBIL DELVAC 1300 SUPER 10w30 CF,CF-4,CG-4,CH-4,CI-4/SL March 9, 2006
MOBIL DELVAC 1300 SUPER 15w40 CF,CF-4,CG-4,CH-4,CI-4/SJ** March 9, 2006
MOBIL DELVAC 1300 SUPER 15w40 CF,CF-4,CG-4,CH-4,CI-4/SL** March 9, 2006
MOBIL DELVAC 1630 30 CF March 9, 2006
MOBIL DELVAC 1640 40 CF March 9, 2006
MOBIL DELVAC 1650 50 CF March 9, 2006
MOBIL DRIVE CLEAN PLUS 5w30 SL/CF* March 9, 2006
SUPERFLO 10W-40 SL March 9, 2006
SUPERFLO 20W-50 SL March 9, 2006
SUPERFLO 30 SL March 9, 2006
SUPERFLO 40 SL March 9, 2006


* Energy Conserving
** CI-4 PLUS
 
To sum up what Mike is posting above, all the MI oils are certified, some are GF-4 and some are not the current API SM rating.

Just to keep it simple, here are the API certifications for the M1 & M1 EP products:

API Starburst Fuel Economy grades -

MOBIL 1 0w30 GF-4 SM
MOBIL 1 5W-20 GF-4 SM
MOBIL 1 5w30 GF-4 SM
MOBIL 1 10w30 GF-4 SM

Not qualifying for GF-4 or API Starburst grades -

MOBIL 1 0W-40 SL
MOBIL 1 EP 15W-50 SM

Does not meet GF-4 Fuel Economy Standards or API SM (Zinc & Phos levels) -

MOBIL 1 EP 5w30 SL
MOBIL 1 EP 10w30 SL
MOBIL 1 EP 10W-40 SL
 
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