API SQ Coming Soon...

[Navi]

I noticed on the Walmart websites a while ago they were having a lot of oil sales. Just now I was reviewing PDS on various websites and noticed Castrol Edge has API SQ on there. I realized this is probably why Walmart has this oil on sale. I remember they did the same thing when API SP came out.

API SP has been outstanding for the industry and so SQ will be exciting to see.

Please post sitings as you see them at Walmart or other stores. So far Castrol is the only one I see that has SQ on their PDS...

What do you think could be in the SQ? A better base oil for example? Do most SP oils already meet SQ?

 

[skyactiv]

I think someone here posted the first API SQ approval was Havoline?

 

[ARB1977]

Amsoil had SQ approval when Amsoil was invented…I had to say it.

 

[Patrick0525]

Last week, I IM Valvoline and asked for a SQ timeline for VRP and received a no commitment date from tech support.

 

[MurkyAsparagus]

I noticed the Castrol Edge EP was SQ, along with Havoline, Shell Helix Ultra, and a few others.

API shows 1456 products having SQ approval.

From what I've been observing in prices of oils locally and on Amazon, many many are being discounted. I think this is in anticipation of the bulk release of SQ oils across the board. I know Valvoline has had some huge discounts of oil on Amazon, especially from the Extended Protection line.

Looks like SQ will roll out 0w8 and 0w12 oil approvals, along with better fuel economy, LSPI protection, engine cleaning improvements, and an increase in baseline engine protection.

Here's an article from Chevron talking about SQ oil.

 

[MurkyAsparagus]

Last week, I IM Valvoline and asked for a SQ timeline for VRP and received a no commitment date from tech support.

Looking at API SQ licenses, it looks like VRP is pretty much the only passenger car oil from Valvoline that doesn't currently have SQ approval.

 

[Patrick0525]

Looking at API SQ licenses, it looks like VRP is pretty much the only passenger car oil from Valvoline that doesn't currently have SQ approval.View attachment 277445
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Can u post the link? Thanks

Update: never mind

 

[Navi]

Just saw it on Mobil 1 0W40 FS PDS.

 

[Patman]

API SQ has been in production since the fall, being put into containers that still showed SP on their labels. As of the end of March, that’s when the labels put onto the product will have SQ on them.

 

[Navi]

API SQ has been in production since the fall, being put into containers that still showed SP on their labels. As of the end of March, that’s when the labels put onto the product will have SQ on them.

It would be nice.to see the old PDS versus the new PDS to get an idea what changed. Im going to go through my old downloads and do some.searches.

Its nice to know the oil I recently bought isnt already outdated. Im going to check bottles for a date. Thanks for that info.

 

[ka9mnx]

SQ is a minor update to SP.

 

[The Critic]

API SP has been outstanding for the industry and so SQ will be exciting to see.

SQ is a minor update to SP.

Afton is one of the big 3 additive suppliers and they don’t appear to agree.

https://issuu.com/afton_chemical/docs/gf-7_update_-_apr_2023_issuu_test_.pptx

 

[Hootbro]

I realized this is probably why Walmart has this oil on sale.

I cannot see Walmart giving a care about such things and just letting normal inventory churn update their shelves organically.

 

[MalibuRam65]

We can now safely push our OCI to 6k now with the new API SQ requirements

 

[Danno]

Afton is one of the big 3 additive suppliers and they don’t appear to agree.

https://issuu.com/afton_chemical/docs/gf-7_update_-_apr_2023_issuu_test_.pptx

This point got my attention.

 

[Hermann]

Looking at API SQ licenses, it looks like VRP is pretty much the only passenger car oil from Valvoline that doesn't currently have SQ approval.View attachment 277445
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Is that a bad thing?

 

[Hall]

I noticed on the Walmart websites a while ago they were having a lot of oil sales. I realized this is probably why Walmart has this oil on sale.

No, Walmart just puts stuff on sale. WM doesn't care one bit about SN, SN+, SP, SQ, etc as they just order the oil and stock whatever the oil company sends them. When the various oil brands transitioned from SN to SP (or whatever), their products maintain the same UPC so even they don't "care" and with the same UPC, the stores have no way to differentiate them either.

Watch as there will be a "scandal" when WM, Autozone, etc update their websites to reference API SQ but there's still API SP on the shelf or they don't update their websites (they still reference SP) while the oil on their shelves is SQ.

Its nice to know the oil I recently bought isnt already outdated.

Can we presume it's API SP ? If so, it's not "outdated". What vehicle do you own ?

 

[Navi]

I did some research and its likely the SQ formula is already on the shelves but with the API SP labels. A few oil makers have stated their oils are "API SQ ready"

I do not work in that industry so I dont know if they have established rules or handshake agreements when they will change the labels. Maybe API sets the standards for when to change the label.

My guess is a company like Mobil probably already changed the formula or its old formula already met the standard. So now they waiting on changing the label.

 

[Patman]

I did some research and its likely the SQ formula is already on the shelves but with the API SP labels. A few oil makers have stated their oils are "API SQ ready"

I do not work in that industry so I dont know if they have established rules or handshake agreements when they will change the labels. Maybe API sets the standards for when to change the label.

My guess is a company like Mobil probably already changed the formula or its old formula already met the standard. So now they waiting on changing the label.

The rules are that as of the last day of March they need to be using the SQ labels. But as I mentioned before, many have been producing the new SQ formulas since the fall, with the old SP labels.

 

[Hall]

I do not work in that industry so I dont know if they have established rules or handshake agreements when they will change the labels. Maybe API sets the standards for when to change the label.

I think it's "none of the above". Oil makers are free to continue producing API SP, SN, SM, SJ, etc if they want to. It could be as simple as they buy their labels in batches of hundreds of thousands and simply will use them all up.

No one "needs" API SQ oil either, at least to meet the requirements of their vehicle's engines. The automakers won't start spec'ing this for probably ~2 years.