Lubegard Bio-tech Regular vs Heavy Duty

[chiks]

After a recent oil change at the dealership where they used Valvoline Bulk Oil 5w30, my engine did not feel the same. It felt a bit rougher and not eager to rev like before. Up until now, I always got a Pennzoil Platinum full synthetic oil change and this change to regular bulk oil was devastating (to me). So rather than perform a drain and refill, I looked at other options and the Lubegard was recommended on this site. I got a 15oz bottle from Amazon as the local O'reilly or the NAPA did not carry them in stock. Poured the bottle into the engine and the engine purrs like a kitten. As good or even slightly better than it did with Pennzoil Platinum.

While researching this, I also discovered that there is a Heavy duty version available and wondered what is the difference. Here is what I found:

 

[2oldtommy]

Pay your money and keep their employees from being unemployed. There is no need for additives in today's oils unless you have a specific problem IMO. FWIW--Oldtommy

 

[ltslimjim]

LOL, you've got my current fill! Valvoline conventional + LG!

Too bad my HG is causing it to limp...I wouldn't use it with synthetic, but with a conventional it'd be interesting to see what it 'might' be able to help accomplish as far as OCI performance. My used oil analysis wouldn't really do anything for me right now, as coolant entry is confirmed and I found this out after the oil change(while the previous OCI's sample results weren't in yet).

PS: No need for their HD version for any passenger car. No experience with it, but perhaps some folks like to add it to some good 'ole 15w40?

 

[chiks]

Originally Posted By: 2oldtommy
Pay your money and keep their employees from being unemployed. There is no need for additives in today's oils unless you have a specific problem IMO. FWIW--Oldtommy


In case you missed it, i did have a problem. My engine did not feel as silky with the valvoline bulk as it does with pennzoil platinum synthetic.

 

[tommygunn]

Originally Posted By: 2oldtommy
Pay your money and keep their employees from being unemployed. There is no need for additives in today's oils unless you have a specific problem IMO. FWIW--Oldtommy


Unless its your transmission, in that case apparently we're all getting [censored]ed and everyone should use LubeGard Red.

I totally concur. Use a quality base oil and be happy. Additives are a gimmick to bandaid problems. Switch oil if you want something better, don't play chemist adding stuff to oil.

 

[chiks]

What crazy thinking. If we all followed it we would be driving a Lada.

 

[Bgallagher]

Originally Posted By: chiks
Originally Posted By: 2oldtommy
Pay your money and keep their employees from being unemployed. There is no need for additives in today's oils unless you have a specific problem IMO. FWIW--Oldtommy


In case you missed it, i did have a problem. My engine did not feel as silky with the valvoline bulk as it does with pennzoil platinum synthetic.


Then switch back. Some engines run better on certain oils. It is a matter of using when you find it. Both are great oils but use what your car likes and call it a day. Don't waste money on additives.

 

[Phishin]

He asked a question. No one answered it. They just complain.

I'm not sure what the difference is, but I would guess that it's simply a more stout mixture with the same components, just more concentrated. But I could be wrong.

LG has a [censored] ton of organic moly in it. AND it helps to boost your TBN like crazy. Those are two real good characterists right there.

What I'm about to do it run a half dose of Lubro Moly MoS2 and a half dose of LG. Both giving me the moly my engine desires (2.4L 2000 Nissan Altima) and the LG provides some protection against keeping the Lubro Moly in for approximately 5k miles in conventional 5w30 Valvoline bulk oil.

 

[demarpaint]

I'm sure its good, just like their other products. When I find some time I'll shoot them an email and ask what's different about it.

 

[chiks]

Originally Posted By: Bgallagher
Originally Posted By: chiks
Originally Posted By: 2oldtommy
Pay your money and keep their employees from being unemployed. There is no need for additives in today's oils unless you have a specific problem IMO. FWIW--Oldtommy


In case you missed it, i did have a problem. My engine did not feel as silky with the valvoline bulk as it does with pennzoil platinum synthetic.


Then switch back. Some engines run better on certain oils. It is a matter of using when you find it. Both are great oils but use what your car likes and call it a day. Don't waste money on additives.


A fully synthetic oil change at the dealer costs me $99.
For less than $15, if I can make the $29 regular oil change work better, what is to complain? apart from that, where is the fun in just doing what I know works???

 

[chiks]

Hold your horses....Everyone here say that Lubegard Engine protectant contains organic Moly. But Lubegard product sheets say otherwise (see page2)

"There is a need for improved oil additives for protection and mileage in view of the rapid technological changes in modern engine design. LUBEGARD provides a concentrated package that fulfills these deficiencies (without adding ZDDP, chlorine, inappropriate sludge-building additives, or solid lubricants such as Teflon®, graphite, or molybdenum disulphide.)"

 

[HTSS_TR]

Some tried Bio-Tech with good results, but nobody ever post anything about Heavy Duty before.


http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...rue#Post2576077

Amazon has both in 32 oz bottle, Bio-Tech for $20.4 and Heavy Duty for $19.0

 

[ltslimjim]

It contains soluble moly, AFAIK. Not MoS2 in solid lubricant form as they specifically differentiate.

EDIT: Someone recently posted a used oil analysis with LG's original (non HD version) protectant. It boosted moly and phosphorous a bit.

 

[mikered30]

Anyone ever notice how Bio-tech smells exactly like green German Castrol, which people describe the smell as gummy worms, but it smells more like silly string to me. I assume that is the ester smell?

 

[Russell]

I just added regular lubegard bio-tech with my oil change of Pennzoil HD 10w40. After about 200 miles it seems the engine runs smoother and is quieter at idle. That's a big deal for a BMW m50-tu engine. The color of the lubegard is blue and my oil is amber with a blue tint. Interesting.

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: mikered30
Anyone ever notice how Bio-tech smells exactly like green German Castrol, which people describe the smell as gummy worms, but it smells more like silly string to me. I assume that is the ester smell?


Motul 300V also has a similar smell to those.

 

[ltslimjim]

Originally Posted By: Russell
I just added regular lubegard bio-tech with my oil change of Pennzoil HD 10w40. After about 200 miles it seems the engine runs smoother and is quieter at idle. That's a big deal for a BMW m50-tu engine. The color of the lubegard is blue and my oil is amber with a blue tint. Interesting.


Even 'with' the head gasket being compromised, ironically enough the engine seems to be doing well on Valvoline conventional + Lubegard Engine Protectant w/ Bio-tech.

 

[chevrofreak]

I e-mailed LubeGard and was told that the Bio-Tech and the Heavy Duty are the same product, but that the HD is bottled in larger containers for larger sumps. So, the 40902 and 30916 part numbers are the same stuff, just different labels.

 

[HTSS_TR]

If that is the case then why pay almost $2 more for 40902 ?

 

[chevrofreak]

No real point.