Lowest Payload Rating for 1/2 ton truck?

Our sienna is 1682lbs. Because the tow rating on a minivan is 3500lbs or so. The truck still has a 10k tow rating, but only with a very light tongue weight, which can happen towing a boat.
It’s not equipped for that. This pickup is quite literally the worst at everything. A full size truck, which is already expensive, plus the added high cost of diesel and def. Yet not equipped to actually handle the duties of light duty truck. If it were a women she’d be fat, lazy, and high maintenance.
 
Our sienna is 1682lbs. Because the tow rating on a minivan is 3500lbs or so. The truck still has a 10k tow rating, but only with a very light tongue weight, which can happen towing a boat.
I see lots of AWD Minivans disguised as SUV's and actual minivans towing some pretty big stuff with no hassles from the police. My limited understanding is that for towing with non-commercial stuff, manufacturers ratings mean nothing legally. As long as the trailer, hitch, receiver, ball, chains are all good for 5k lbs you can tow that behind my Outback or a minivan or a disguised minivan.
 
Times have changed…back in 1990 the Dakota pickup had a “1 ton” option. (1500 pounds actually)
I ordered one and loaded the bed to a ton with a 3000 pound trailer behind often. It did well. Only thing replaced in 125,000 miles was a U-Joint.
 
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I see lots of AWD Minivans disguised as SUV's and actual minivans towing some pretty big stuff with no hassles from the police. My limited understanding is that for towing with non-commercial stuff, manufacturers ratings mean nothing legally. As long as the trailer, hitch, receiver, ball, chains are all good for 5k lbs you can tow that behind my Outback or a minivan or a disguised minivan.
You realize I can sue you for leaving wet leaves on your sidewalk-if I slip? Right? You understanding of what one is "liable for" is VERY LIMITED. The vast majority of time-YOUR INSURANCE will payoff without ever heading to court. Your logic means I could load up the bed until the vehicle "squats". That's a failed perception.
 
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You realize I can sue you for leaving wet leaves on your sidewalk-if I slip? Right? You understanding of what one is "liable for" is VERY LIMITED. The vast majority of time-YOUR INSURANCE will payoff without ever heading to court.
You can sue for anything for sure, but atleast my highway traffic act, doesn't mention manufacturers tow ratings of the actual vehicle at all? Anyways I'm no lawyer, but I see lots of people towing lots of stuff way over the manufacturers ratings without hassle and I've spoken to a hitch fabricator with his inspection qualifications to give the stickers, and he said that as well. Tons of guys tow 3k lb unbraked trailers for business and are covered by their insurance. But hey, if you can squeeze some more money out of an insurance company in civil court by talking about manufacturers ratings, why not.
 
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You can sue for anything for sure, but atleast my highway traffic act, doesn't mention manufacturers tow ratings of the actual vehicle at all? Anyways I'm no lawyer, but I see lots of people towing lots of stuff way over the manufacturers ratings without hassle and I've spoken to a hitch fabricator with his inspection qualifications to give the stickers, and he said that as well. Tons of guys tow 3k lb unbraked trailers for business and are covered by their insurance.
It's not a hassle until you have an "at fault" accident. In most states 2,500 to 3,000 pound trailers are not required to have brakes.
 
It's not a hassle until you have an "at fault" accident. In most states 2,500 to 3,000 pound trailers are not required to have brakes.
My point is that all vehicle manufacturers, only have 1500lbs or less unbraked tow ratings, so everyone is exceeding that rating without a problem.
 
Payload rating of 2,230 pounds on my 2017 Sierra 1500 4x4 Double cab 5.3... with the NHT Max Trailering package.

Heh, heh, heh.... That's over *double* what this Ram can carry...

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Payload rating of 2,230 pounds on my 2017 Sierra 1500 4x4 Double cab 5.3... with the NHT Max Trailering package.

Heh, heh, heh.... That's over *double* what this Ram can carry...

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That's a great payload. The thing is that most Chevrolet half-tons do not have the NHT package. The dealers don't stock them-in any quantity -in "normal times". For the weekend towers they are not needed or desired -generally.
 
That's a great payload. The thing is that most Chevrolet half-tons do not have the NHT package. The dealers don't stock them-in any quantity -in "normal times". For the weekend towers they are not needed or desired -generally.
I would limit my search to an NHT half ton or 3/4 ton and up just to have spare capacity. NHT gives you great upgrades even if you never tow, like a bigger axle for example.

How many truck people understand payload like Bitogers? They just hook it up and go. If it overheats maybe it was too heavy.
 
I would limit my search to an NHT half ton or 3/4 ton and up just to have spare capacity. NHT gives you great upgrades even if you never tow, like a bigger axle for example.

How many truck people understand payload like Bitogers? They just hook it up and go. If it overheats maybe it was too heavy.
IT's not like a standard axle is going to break.......it's not like newer vehicles ever over heat anymore. Yea-if you can find a heavy tow package for a few bucks more-OK. But if you don't tow-it's not needed.
 
IT's not like a standard axle is going to break.......it's not like newer vehicles ever over heat anymore. Yea-if you can find a heavy tow package for a few bucks more-OK. But if you don't tow-it's not needed.
NHT is awesome, a must have imo, and only about 2% additional. And people do overheat their half tons towing, ask the ecoboost high altitude people towing heavy. I would likely go 3/4 ton gas if i was ordering a new GM but i would not skip NHT if i was ordering a 1500.

Getting that much capability while still being in a light halfton that daily drives better than a 3/4 ton is huge. You get all this for $1125:
 

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