Looking for oil reccomendation

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I drive a 2006 Honda S2000 that sees a lot of short trips and autocross every Tuesday. Oil is always up to temperature when I'm autocrossing because I drive 30 min to the event and do not shut off the engine between the 3 minute runs. The car has 46k miles and I have been running Castrol Edge 10w30 for the past 3 changes. Because I am worried about the short trips, I believe I should switch to a 5w30 or 0w30. Should I stick with the Castrol Edge line to minimize brand mixing or go with a line that might be better for racing like Pennzoil Ultra or Redline?

EDIT: 5k mile drain intervals and PureOne filters.
 
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Originally Posted By: Steve S
Where are you getting the ideas. What is the switch 0 or 5w supposed to do?

I am getting my ideas from the Oil 101 to 108 articles linked on the front page, specifically Oil 102. 0w and 5w have lower viscosity at 40 C. I have checked this on the specification pages on the Redline, Castrol, and Pennzoil websites.

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I have heard several people say that Porsche specifically prohibits a 0W-XX engine oil, that it is too thin. Now here is the partial truth I spoke of earlier.

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The downside of a mineral based multi-grade oil is that this VII additive wears out over time and you end up with the original straight 10 grade oil. It will go back to being too thin when hot. It will have a thickness of 6 instead of 10. This may be why Porsche (according to some people) does not want a 0w30 but rather a 10w30. If the VII wears out the 0w30 will ultimately be thinner, a straight 0 grade oil. When the VII is used up in the 10w30 oil it too is thinner. It goes back to a straight 10 grade oil. They are both still too thick at startup, both of them. The straight 0 grade oil, a 5 grade oil and a 10 grade oil are all too thick at startup.

This is just theory however. With normal oil change intervals the VI improver will not wear out and so the problem does not really exist. In fact, oils do thin a little with use. This is partly from dilution with blow by gasoline and partly from VI improvers being used up. What is more interesting is that with further use motor oils actually thicken and this is much worse than the minimal thinning that may have occurred earlier.

Synthetic oils are a whole different story. There is no VI improver added so there is nothing to wear out. The actual oil molecules never wear out. You could almost use the same oil forever. The problem is that there are other additives and they do get used up.
 
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Don't believe everything you read on the web especially most of the oil 101+ articles. The oil you are using is fine. It is not cold enough to worry about 0 or 5w in Calif especially with a syn based oil. No matter what visc oil is used you do not want to hammer the throttle untill the engine is warmed up which you seem to be doing. Try different oils and see what works best for you.
 
Since you track your S2000 once a week and do a lot of short trips the rest of the week, you may want to try Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5W40 which is also recommended by Honda for S2000.
 
Originally Posted By: Steve S
Don't believe everything you read on the web especially most of the oil 101+ articles. The oil you are using is fine. It is not cold enough to worry about 0 or 5w in Calif especially with a syn based oil. No matter what visc oil is used you do not want to hammer the throttle untill the engine is warmed up which you seem to be doing. Try different oils and see what works best for you.

This is my first post so I'm trying to make it an educated one. Thank you for the reply. I have been waiting until the coolant is hot before hitting the throttle, but after reading that it takes oil up to 30 minutes to get to temperature, I am not going to do that anymore. Unfortunately I will not know what oils will work best without running a UOA and I do not want to spend another $25 on top of the price of oil.
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Since you track your S2000 once a week and do a lot of short trips the rest of the week, you may want to try Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5W40 which is also recommended by Honda for S2000.

I read about this oil today and am very interested. Where do you recommend buying it?
 
Originally Posted By: JRed
Rotella T6 5w-40. Seriously.

Get it at Wal-Mart or somewhere.


I agree. Great price point at Walmart if you buy the 4.4L jugs.
 
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10w-30 synthetic is probbaly your best bet for living in California. The 5w-40 will work but is unnecessary. Castrol Edge is perfectly acceptable in 10w30 for 5k drain intervals and 1 year.

You are doing changes at least once per year correct?
 
Originally Posted By: flyingtoaster

Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Since you track your S2000 once a week and do a lot of short trips the rest of the week, you may want to try Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5W40 which is also recommended by Honda for S2000.

I read about this oil today and am very interested. Where do you recommend buying it?

Currently Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5W40 is not available at local stores, but you can buy it directly from Pennzoil with free shipping, also you may be able to get a free Ferrari hat with your order. Pennzoil Ultra link below.

http://www.pennzoil.com/#/motor-oil/pennzoil-ultra

Rotella T6 5w-40 at Wal-Mart in 5-qt jug is another good choice.
 
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Originally Posted By: flyingtoaster

Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Since you track your S2000 once a week and do a lot of short trips the rest of the week, you may want to try Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5W40 which is also recommended by Honda for S2000.

I read about this oil today and am very interested. Where do you recommend buying it?

Currently Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5W40 is not available at local stores, but you can buy it directly from Pennzoil with free shipping, also you may be able to get a free Ferrari hat with your order. Pennzoil Ultra link below.

http://www.pennzoil.com/#/motor-oil/pennzoil-ultra

Rotella T6 5w-40 at Wal-Mart in 5-qt jug is another good choice.

Thanks for the info, I bought Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5w40 from that link.
 
Remember because you autocross weekly and do short trips, your car falls under severe service and should have a relatively short OCI. If it were my cat I would start thinking about changing it at 4k and get around to it around 5k at the latest.

I have the ultra 5w-40 in my Jetta right now. For the price I prefer Lubro Moly and won't buy the Pennzoil again. You could give both t6 a try and some Lubro Moly a try in your quest for best oil.
 
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Remember because you autocross weekly and do short trips, your car falls under severe service and should have a relatively short OCI. If it were my cat I would start thinking about changing it at 4k and get around to it around 5k at the latest.

I have the ultra 5w-40 in my Jetta right now. For the price I prefer Lubro Moly and won't buy the Pennzoil again. You could give both t6 a try and some Lubro Moly a try in your quest for best oil.

Thank you for the reply. I will do my homework on T6 to lower the cost of my next oil change, but I will probably send for a UOA on the Pennzoil or my current Castrol Edge before making yet another switch. My car has a Maintenance Minder system that tells me when to change my oil based on how I drive. I think that 4k and even 7k would make no difference, as it would barely scratch the surface of the filter media service life and any synthetic oil's extended OCI additives. However, I would definitely consider a half racing oil that is designed for 4k OCIs. I really see no point in using these 15k mile synthetics when I change at 5k and 5 months.
 
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