Mobil 1 15W-50 or Redline 10W-40.
Redline 10W-40 is probably the best most stout 40 grade oil you can find.
Redline 10W-40 is probably the best most stout 40 grade oil you can find.
Looking for oil advice - 5w-50 ?
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I dont see how 5w50 wouldnt work well.
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Think the assumption is you don't build that wide spread with base oil -- VII does it and that bothers some folks.
Lots of folks run 0w40 and some will not. Perception is reality - living down south it is certainly easier and of course some Canadian's put the HP toys away for the winter ...
Lots of folks run 0w40 and some will not. Perception is reality - living down south it is certainly easier and of course some Canadian's put the HP toys away for the winter ...
Originally Posted By: Azoth
Ok so it looks like 15w-50 is the winner.
Already ordered to Motul 5w-50 though so I guess I will just use that until the next change.
Is there a specific reason some people are saying 5w would not be good for my application? Sorry kind of an oil noob here and just want to understand the reasoning.
You'll be fine with the Motul. It hit your pocket book, just like it does mine when I order it ... But, for me its for bike engines, so not a huge hit. And, if you are not crazy on that motor pedal, you can get away with running it longer. Do a UOA at 3,000 miles and see how its holding up... You may be surprised at how long it can go
That'll help with the price hit
But once you need to change, I'd consider going to 15W-50 and just cruising on
Yeah, right, with that motor, I'd be in the loud pedal too much to
Ok so it looks like 15w-50 is the winner.
Already ordered to Motul 5w-50 though so I guess I will just use that until the next change.
Is there a specific reason some people are saying 5w would not be good for my application? Sorry kind of an oil noob here and just want to understand the reasoning.
You'll be fine with the Motul. It hit your pocket book, just like it does mine when I order it ... But, for me its for bike engines, so not a huge hit. And, if you are not crazy on that motor pedal, you can get away with running it longer. Do a UOA at 3,000 miles and see how its holding up... You may be surprised at how long it can go
That'll help with the price hit
But once you need to change, I'd consider going to 15W-50 and just cruising on
Yeah, right, with that motor, I'd be in the loud pedal too much to
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why not consider something like this? it is API SN approved and has a pour point of -40
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/mo.../?code=DMEQT-EA
just an example, i am not trolling for amsoil
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/mo.../?code=DMEQT-EA
just an example, i am not trolling for amsoil
Originally Posted By: 2004tdigls
why not consider something like this? it is API SN approved and has a pour point of -40
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/mo.../?code=DMEQT-EA
just an example, i am not trolling for amsoil
So Cal, -40 pour point? O.K.
why not consider something like this? it is API SN approved and has a pour point of -40
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/mo.../?code=DMEQT-EA
just an example, i am not trolling for amsoil
So Cal, -40 pour point? O.K.
Yeah, I don't think a -40 is needed unless you're going deer hunting up near Susanville
Originally Posted By: Rolla07
I dont see how 5w50 wouldnt work well.
Originally Posted By: 4WD
Think the assumption is you don't build that wide spread with base oil -- VII does it and that bothers some folks.
Lots of folks run 0w40 and some will not. Perception is reality - living down south it is certainly easier and of course some Canadian's put the HP toys away for the winter ...
It's not fear of VIIs per se...it's just that making wide spread oils the meet J300 specs means that the oils aren't actually offering up what their grade would/should suggest.
Take M1 5W50...
http://www.mobil.com/english-GB/Passenger-Vehicle-Lube/pds/GLXXMobil-1-Peak-Life-5W50
The HTHS, which is the determinant of bearing protection and high RPM oil pressure is 4.4Cp...
While Redline 10W40...
https://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=5
Will provide the same protection, and less likelihood of shearing.
Silly unicorn oils like Mobil 1 racing 0W50
https://mobiloil.com/en/motor-oils/mobil-1/mobil-1-racing-oil
demonstrate NOT the fear of VII, just that J300, allows some silly outcomes...Mobil could have made a "racing" 5W40 which would be more shear stable, and offer the same 3.8 HTHS protection.
I dont see how 5w50 wouldnt work well.
Originally Posted By: 4WD
Think the assumption is you don't build that wide spread with base oil -- VII does it and that bothers some folks.
Lots of folks run 0w40 and some will not. Perception is reality - living down south it is certainly easier and of course some Canadian's put the HP toys away for the winter ...
It's not fear of VIIs per se...it's just that making wide spread oils the meet J300 specs means that the oils aren't actually offering up what their grade would/should suggest.
Take M1 5W50...
http://www.mobil.com/english-GB/Passenger-Vehicle-Lube/pds/GLXXMobil-1-Peak-Life-5W50
The HTHS, which is the determinant of bearing protection and high RPM oil pressure is 4.4Cp...
While Redline 10W40...
https://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=5
Will provide the same protection, and less likelihood of shearing.
Silly unicorn oils like Mobil 1 racing 0W50
https://mobiloil.com/en/motor-oils/mobil-1/mobil-1-racing-oil
demonstrate NOT the fear of VII, just that J300, allows some silly outcomes...Mobil could have made a "racing" 5W40 which would be more shear stable, and offer the same 3.8 HTHS protection.
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Makes you wonder who is asking for a spread like that when (for example) the real Shelby SS techs FF'd off the shelf Mobil 1 15W50 - and said enjoy it road or track ... (bosses car) ... yet buddy has a 2 year old 911S M1 0W40 in S. Texas.
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The OP's is a different motor with larger clearances (something I do to), so not the same.
But your point is valid for track performance in those motors
But your point is valid for track performance in those motors
Originally Posted By: BrocLuno
Originally Posted By: Azoth
Ok so it looks like 15w-50 is the winner.
Already ordered to Motul 5w-50 though so I guess I will just use that until the next change.
Is there a specific reason some people are saying 5w would not be good for my application? Sorry kind of an oil noob here and just want to understand the reasoning.
You'll be fine with the Motul. It hit your pocket book, just like it does mine when I order it ... But, for me its for bike engines, so not a huge hit. And, if you are not crazy on that motor pedal, you can get away with running it longer. Do a UOA at 3,000 miles and see how its holding up... You may be surprised at how long it can go
That'll help with the price hit
But once you need to change, I'd consider going to 15W-50 and just cruising on
Yeah, right, with that motor, I'd be in the loud pedal too much to
Haha.. yeah I find myself in the loud pedal quite a lot
And I'm pretty OCD about my cars, at 3,000 miles is about when I change the oil... 5k maybe if I'm pushing it.
But yeah it looks like some Redline 15w-50 is the winner for the next one, looks like some good stuff... and you can get it on amazon.. score.
Originally Posted By: Azoth
Ok so it looks like 15w-50 is the winner.
Already ordered to Motul 5w-50 though so I guess I will just use that until the next change.
Is there a specific reason some people are saying 5w would not be good for my application? Sorry kind of an oil noob here and just want to understand the reasoning.
You'll be fine with the Motul. It hit your pocket book, just like it does mine when I order it ... But, for me its for bike engines, so not a huge hit. And, if you are not crazy on that motor pedal, you can get away with running it longer. Do a UOA at 3,000 miles and see how its holding up... You may be surprised at how long it can go
That'll help with the price hit
But once you need to change, I'd consider going to 15W-50 and just cruising on
Yeah, right, with that motor, I'd be in the loud pedal too much to
Haha.. yeah I find myself in the loud pedal quite a lot
And I'm pretty OCD about my cars, at 3,000 miles is about when I change the oil... 5k maybe if I'm pushing it.
But yeah it looks like some Redline 15w-50 is the winner for the next one, looks like some good stuff... and you can get it on amazon.. score.
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