Looking for MTF 75W-85 GL-5

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Most of them out there are GL-4's or GL-5's having friction modifiers for LSD. The car manual asks for it. It's a front transaxle (FF).
If can't find one I think I'm gonna go for 75W-90 NS from Red Line and wait for it to thin out :-)
I though maybe you guys know one that's actually a 85W transmission fluid.
Thanks.
 
I would look (search) and repost in the transmission fluid forum. Youll see lots of posts from Ams MTF to Valvoline GL4/5 to RL MTL depending on trans. Also Honda OEm manual transaxle fluid is pretty good.
 
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If you need a manual transmission specific 75W85 *GL5*,you may have to go to the stealership.
 
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Originally Posted By: tudorart
Thank you guys. I decided on a gl5 75W-90NS 50:50 mix with MTL GL-4. That should get me close enough to GL-5.


Have used a nearly identical mix in multiple transmissions, and it is very smooth but at the expense of a.slight syrupy feeling.

I have had better results with D4 ATF and MTL 50/50, or D4 and 75w90 50/50, but for my cars I just use straight D4 and they shift better than new!
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what is the application? Can you not get a suitable fluid from the vendor?

Ive personally found Amsoil MTFs to maintain feel better, longer than Redline.
 
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Most of them out there are GL-4's or GL-5's having friction modifiers for LSD.


I think you have been misinformed.

MTL specific fluids DO NOT have LSD friction modifiers in them.

What vehicle is this; you never told us?

Unless the transaxle has a hypoid design, you don't need a GL5. Most modern transaxles have spider gear differentials and a GL4 will offer sufficient protection.

It sounds like another rediculous spec from the OEM due to lubrication ignorance.
 
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Sorry guys and thanks for the good advice. I've been away a bit. It's a Peugeot 308 1,6 HDI. FF layout. The following years they changed it to a 75W-85 GL4+...whatever that + means. Mola was right...these guys were probably playing it safe in the beginning...that would explain the gl-5. However lot's of manufacturers ask for GF-5 in Europe...could it be for the same reason they ask for thicker engine oil grades? My guess is GL-5 would be a better protection in severe (European) conditions where synchro durability would come second. Another thing would be the early torque of these Diesel passenger cars. I mean you get Honda S2000 numbers at 1800rpm instead of 6800rpm (and 60mpg as a bonus).
And it DOES have a hypoid final drive gear set...for packaging and weight reasons probably. But I would"ve guessed this is not a sufficient reason by itself... I always though GL-5 would be appropriate when changing by 90 degrees the rotational thing like in a FR layout combined with a hypoid set.
I wish I knew what the + means. I've seen Redline using it as well but in a gl5+ or gl6+ manner.
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
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Most of them out there are GL-4's or GL-5's having friction modifiers for LSD.


I think you have been misinformed.

MTL specific fluids DO NOT have LSD friction modifiers in them.

What vehicle is this; you never told us?

Unless the transaxle has a hypoid design, you don't need a GL5. Most modern transaxles have spider gear differentials and a GL4 will offer sufficient protection.

It sounds like another rediculous spec from the OEM due to lubrication ignorance.
 
I was actually thinking to mix some Amsoil but I don't like the fact that they don't make a different gf5 mtf from a gf5 gear oil. They have one product and recommend it for both (gl5 applications). I wonder how that works because this (severe gear) is a LSD compatible fluid and should be slippery.

Dave from Redline confirmed that their NS gf5's are having inhibited type sulphur EP additives so I assumed Amsoil would do the same thing but now that they have the same product for differential application I'm not so sure any more.
 
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