I'll be heading to Dallas in a few weeks so I compiled a list of machines I hope we can get to see. The majority (maybe all) have Kawasaki motors so that's good. The hydros are all over the place. Several have non serviceable ZT 2200. A couple have ZT2800 which are serviceable and 1 or 2 other make and models. All have fabricated decks. So, in no particular order: 1) Bad Boy Rambler and Magnum, 2) Cub Cadet ultima Z2 (budget option), 3) Toro Timecutter Max, 4) Ariens Ikon, and 5) Gravely ZT. Most are comfortably under our the 5K budget but, a couple are taxing it. Hopefully we can find some sales or dealers who can make us an offer we can't refuse . Thanks for the replies and suggestions.