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Out of cash and out of time.
Electric school buses make zero sense to me. The cost per passenger mile using gas or diesel has to already be ridiculously low. I don't have the numbers, but would love to see the ROI some school district used to justify such a purchase.
Electric school buses make zero sense to me. The cost per passenger mile using gas or diesel has to already be ridiculously low. I don't have the numbers, but would love to see the ROI some school district used to justify such a purchase.
School buses, unlike transit buses, travel their route twice a day, so there is relatvely little money to save fuel on verses a transit bus. There is lots of hype to buy them but they see the economic results real fast and it’s not good.
I guess children breathing diesel fumes while at the school doesn’t figure into some people ROI.
It's nuts, in our public world of debt some districts spend $400,000 on an electric school bus vs $160,000 on a diesel.
Not only that but EV buses are in an infancy. We do not know what the long or short term costs will be to maintain them. There have been issues.
In addition to all the above, it can cost up to $160,000 per charging port to install in order to charge the $400,000 bus. But dont worry, the school districts and local taxpayers are getting a big incentive from the national taxpayers to pay for these things. I suspect like the EV cars, the tipping point will come closer than I thought. Meaning districts might not jump onboard as fast to replace diesels. I feel this way about the private sector too. I dont know but for a new product EV car dealers seem to have plenty of stock in their inventory. Doesnt feel like the public demand is panning as predicted. They will always be a good seller but not replace gasoline car sales anywhere in the future.
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Are school districts expected to balance their budget or blow it on electric buses? The little children are going to inherit a $36 Trillion debt as it is.
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$50T (trillion) by the time these little kids grow up and get jobs as an adult.
50t if they are lucky. I figured we would hit that within 5 years but ... well, everything is a wild card right now. I only say that because as much as people like us want it cut, boy wait until the public realizes the economy has been fake for the last decade. 
Their Tv probably won't tell them.50t if they are lucky. I figured we would hit that within 5 years but ... well, everything is a wild card right now. I only say that because as much as people like us want it cut, boy wait until the public realizes the economy has been fake for the last decade.
It actually hurts to think about how established methods of product testing were omitted.
Fleet vehicles used 'round the clock should've been electrified first. Mail trucks, police cars, taxis and local PUD vehicles come to mind.
Shunters used in trailer yards could be electrified.
Ma and Pa Kettle driving 3 or 4 miles to the store don't need stupendous, electric cars....more basic ones would do.
Fleet vehicles used 'round the clock should've been electrified first. Mail trucks, police cars, taxis and local PUD vehicles come to mind.
Shunters used in trailer yards could be electrified.
Ma and Pa Kettle driving 3 or 4 miles to the store don't need stupendous, electric cars....more basic ones would do.
They have electric buses in Iceland. And tons of electric cars.
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That is why they come with DPF and SCR.
I must be smelling the onboard barbecue when they drive by here.
I'd be worried about a battery fire with one of these buses. YouTube videos of EV transit bus battery fires look absolutely horrendous.
the first battery fire under a loaded bus is unimaginable
edyvw
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Well, maybe school district should smell 21st century.
Here we go!
Of all uses for cordless vehicles a school bus would be ideal. Can use regen when stopping.
Trash truck would be another.
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