After 11 years the massive Ivanpah CSP plant is being phased out

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The Ivanpah solar power plant formally opened in 2014 on roughly 5 square miles of federal land near the California-Nevada border. Though it was hailed at the time as a breakthrough moment for clean energy, its power has been struggling to compete with cheaper solar technologies.

Pacific Gas & Electric said in a statement it had agreed with owners — including NRG Energy Inc. — to terminate its contracts with the Ivanpah plant. If approved by regulators, the deal would lead to closing two of the plant’s three units starting in 2026. The contracts were expected to run through 2039.

“PG&E determined that ending the agreements at this time will save customers money,” the company said in a statement on its website.

Southern California Edison, which buys the rest of the power from the three-unit plant, is in discussions with owners and the U.S. Energy Department regarding a buyout of its Ivanpah contract.


Both myself and @JHZR2 have commented on this facility in past discussions.

The facility cost $2.2bn to construct for a nameplate capacity of 392MW. Most of the project cost was funded by the US government in the form of a DOE loan guarantee for $1.6 billion. It occupies ~3,500 acres of land, which is >1,000 acres more than the sprawling Bruce Power complex here in Ontario, that was originally intended on having a nameplate capacity of 13,464MW across four four-packs (Bruce A/B/C/D).

One of the biggest issues with Ivanpah is its considerable consumption of natural gas. The plant is effectively a solar spin on your traditional Rankine Cycle steam turbine, but because it would take ages to warm the plant up in the AM to the point that it generates electricity, things are "pre-heated" by burning natural gas, then transitioning to solar once the receptors get hot enough. In 2014, the plant burned 525 million cubic feet of natural gas.

Annual production, when the plant was operating properly, was expected to be around 1TWh per year. The plant regularly did not operate properly and failed to meet its contract obligations almost every year.

Output table from Wikipedia:
YearCombined output (gas + solar) in MWh
2014419,085
2015653,122
2016703,039
2017720,138
2018795,856
2019772,214
2020856,301
2021739,716
2022769,164

That's an average output of 714,293MWh; an average capacity factor of 20.8%, which is less than solar PV and considerably less than planned, which was 28.5%.
 
We have a new one covering 4k acres @ 350 MW …
Our new wind farm certainly appears to be on more land - yet with small tower footprints - the land is still farmed whilst putting out 150 MW
 
So they built this expensive thing in a bad location? lol, that's funny but not funny at the same time.
Unfortunately. It's similar to the the Hoover Dam. Apparently the historical data used to justify the construction of the dam was based off a period of higher than normal precipitation.
 
This thing was a dog out of the gate.

It never did hit its numbers.

If you are going to do this, do a trough system or a super simple zero moving parts panel farm, and be done.
 
It only failed because of the site location rather than the design. It didn't receive enough sun to generate the required amount of power.

https://apnews.com/general-news-3f08a32495974263872590bff237aeae

The price of power from rooftop solar made it uncompetitive. All thermal generation has to deal with the lost cost of solar.
It has had major reliability issues. It's in an extremely sunny location, if we were talking about Edmonton you might have a point, but we aren't.

Traditional thermal generators are able to produce when solar can't. This sprawling complex had the same generating profile as PV, but with the complexity of a thermal plant as well as the maintenance (and consumption of natural gas).

Also, rooftop is not what made it uncompetitive, large scale commercial PV is what made it uncompetitive. Rooftop is the least cost effective PV from a grid perspective, it has the lowest output (poorest angles) and the highest cost due to that, and the scale of the installations. That's why rooftop was massively subsidized in Cali via the various NEM schemes with this only changing in the last year with NEM 3 and the push for storage.
 
This thing was a dog out of the gate.

It never did hit its numbers.

If you are going to do this, do a trough system or a super simple zero moving parts panel farm, and be done.
Trying to make solar behave like a baseload generator is always a gong show. The trough systems have also been disasters. The PV farms are the most cost effective, but the West is beholden to China for that, who manufactures them using mine-to-mouth coal, so it's not as green as advertised.
 
Trying to make solar behave like a baseload generator is always a gong show. The trough systems have also been disasters. The PV farms are the most cost effective, but the West is beholden to China for that, who manufactures them using mine-to-mouth coal, so it's not as green as advertised.

This thing ripped through natural gas like it was going out of style.

At least with trough I don't pretend to be baseload, but yeah in the end if you are going to do it get real about what it really does and just put up a bunch of panels so you don't have to babysit the thing 24x7 pretending to be something you are not.

As you say panels arent really "green" to make but at least you get some breakeven ROI at some point.

This experimental hog was a joke from day 1 the longer it ran the more it lost.
 
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