Its just over $4/qt at Advanced Auto.
Licensed Valvoline ATF+4 Now Avaliable
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Its just over $4/qt at Advanced Auto.
Great news for Mopar owners! Now there's no longer any excuse for playing ATF roulette.
that is great. its about time someone else produced the atf+4, only took 6 years
Great timing, as I'm just about ready to service the minivan transmission and flush out the ATF+3. This is excellent news.
That's great, thanks for posting!
SP-III is the mitsu fluid right? wouldnt the atf+3 replace that?
'02 date?
It took 3 1/2 years to bring it to market?
Maybe valvoline was supplying it to dealers.
It is listed on the PDF as a 55g barrel.
Racer, I don't think Mitsu SPIII is compatible with ATF+3 fluids.
Alan, yes there should be a SPIII licensed fluid besides "stealership" availible fluid.
It took 3 1/2 years to bring it to market?
Maybe valvoline was supplying it to dealers.
It is listed on the PDF as a 55g barrel.
Racer, I don't think Mitsu SPIII is compatible with ATF+3 fluids.
Alan, yes there should be a SPIII licensed fluid besides "stealership" availible fluid.
Chrysler just approved retail sale of private label ATF+4 last fall. Companies that were already approved blenders for OEM factory fill ATF+4 were in a good position to begin marketing the fluid under their own brand name(s). ExxonMobil was an approved blender and it appears Valvoline was too based on the date of that MSDS.
Interesting 'date' on this MSDS:
http://msds.ashland.com/ShowMSDS.asp?M=0382635&C=005&D=505&L=EN&F=ANSI&N=VALVOLINE+ATF+4+1/55+GA
http://msds.ashland.com/ShowMSDS.asp?M=0382635&C=005&D=505&L=EN&F=ANSI&N=VALVOLINE+ATF+4+1/55+GA
it may cause problems. in the owners manual for my 04 neon it says:
"Using a transmission fluid other than the manufacturers recommended fluid may cause deterioration in transmission shift quality and/or torque converter shudder. Using a transmission fluid other than the manufacturers recommeded fluid will result in more frequent fluid and filter changes."
so if you get lucky you will only have to change the fluid and filter more often, kind of kills any cost savings of trying to use a cheaper fluid. but you could end up with shudder.
"Using a transmission fluid other than the manufacturers recommended fluid may cause deterioration in transmission shift quality and/or torque converter shudder. Using a transmission fluid other than the manufacturers recommeded fluid will result in more frequent fluid and filter changes."
so if you get lucky you will only have to change the fluid and filter more often, kind of kills any cost savings of trying to use a cheaper fluid. but you could end up with shudder.
This info came at a great time, currently trying to help my mom with her 2002 Sebring.
Anyway, here is some product info I was given by Valvoline since they have not updated the website: Valvoline ATF+4 PDF
Anyway, here is some product info I was given by Valvoline since they have not updated the website: Valvoline ATF+4 PDF
This is exactly what I did with my Chrysler. I've been running ExxonMobil ATF+3 in in for almost a year. There is absolutely no difference in performance or shift quality over the ATF+4 that it came with from the factory.
If you do a search you will find my posts about this. Bottom line: the friction characteristics of ATF+3 and ATF+4 are essentially the same. The real difference in the fluids is the base oils used, with ATF+4 being all Group III which makes for a longer lasting fluid. I think any transmission that came with ATF+4 will do just fine on ATF+3 so long as you change it out every two or three years or run it no longer than 50,000 miles.
I would add, however, that once ATF+4 becomes readily available at retailers there is no reason to choose ATF+3 over it. I will be going back to ATF+4 next time.
Hey guys, I've used amsoils Universal ATF for my ATF+4 changes in my 00 Dakota. would I be better off staying with amsoil or switching to this ATF+4. I would perfer a supirior product! I get my amsoil for $6.49 Qt. What are your recommendations!!
Stay with the Amsoil if it works for you. I have been using Redlines C+ ATF and it works very well. No need to panic over this G-ManII points out it's a group III. Redline and Amsoil and Specialty Formulation Products ATF(correct me, I know you will) are group IV.
Got some the other day from AutoZone. $3.69/qt. WalMart didn't have any (yet?).
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