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Now is they could only find those over the legal blood alcohol limit or those talking/texting.
No wants, no warrants, no liens and current tags = no problems.
Whenever I'm out on the highways or anywhere in public it's safe and realistic to assume somebody somewhere is keeping an eye or three on what's happening.
That and a conscience have thus far conspired to keep me out of trouble.
Flipside is California is granting driver licenses to millions of illegal aliens during 2015.
So progressive and compassionate we are!
Whenever I'm out on the highways or anywhere in public it's safe and realistic to assume somebody somewhere is keeping an eye or three on what's happening.
That and a conscience have thus far conspired to keep me out of trouble.
Flipside is California is granting driver licenses to millions of illegal aliens during 2015.
So progressive and compassionate we are!
The issue that it gets into is that the license plate tracking is now sophisticated enough not to just for law enforcement or skiptracking, but has moved into general data collection that maps your location and behavior even if you're just a regular joe. It's not the government, it's individual companies. And because they supply the data to the government, they somewhat get a free pass and don't get regulated.
The companies that do this started as skiptracers, but now they will go ahead and sell their data to anybody who wants it.
For example, they see your plates at a bar, then perhaps they start sending you bevmo coupons. They see you at a casino, they start sending you other gambling related things.
If you go to the gun range, they know you are interested in firearms (I don't see how the conservatives would be OK with this, when they equally get huffed up against background checks put them on a "list").
This is something just like the whole NSA phone tracking "scandal". Sure if you have nothing to hide maybe you don't care; but you should respect that many people do value their privacy?
The companies that do this started as skiptracers, but now they will go ahead and sell their data to anybody who wants it.
For example, they see your plates at a bar, then perhaps they start sending you bevmo coupons. They see you at a casino, they start sending you other gambling related things.
If you go to the gun range, they know you are interested in firearms (I don't see how the conservatives would be OK with this, when they equally get huffed up against background checks put them on a "list").
This is something just like the whole NSA phone tracking "scandal". Sure if you have nothing to hide maybe you don't care; but you should respect that many people do value their privacy?
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Originally Posted By: dblshock
next I'll be able to google your plate.
Well basically yep, that's it, except you pay a fee to a company for that data, and it's not google.
Then they'll give you with a map with everywhere that plate has been been spotted by date and even lines connecting them.
It will approach almost like having a gps tracker without having the legal requirements to stalking laws prohibitting it.
next I'll be able to google your plate.
Well basically yep, that's it, except you pay a fee to a company for that data, and it's not google.
Then they'll give you with a map with everywhere that plate has been been spotted by date and even lines connecting them.
It will approach almost like having a gps tracker without having the legal requirements to stalking laws prohibitting it.
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here's some anti-scanning articles courtesy of ACLU
Of course biased towards getting rid of the practice, but points out real problems and where we're headed with this.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/license-plate-scanners
Of course biased towards getting rid of the practice, but points out real problems and where we're headed with this.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/license-plate-scanners
There are about 750,000 police officers in the U.S., which interestingly is about the same as the number of doctors. To make the blanket statement that there are more bad police than good ones is laughable. I'm sure you can back this up somehow, right?
some of these cruisers are set-up with cameras everywhere, frt, back, side..they're so focused on the computer it's endangering the public not to mention missing other activity going on around them...most are Barney Fife type IQ's or worse.
Seems to me a reasonable data dump policy (I.e. to only keep the data for a couple of days) is in order, yet the police are reluctant. The ability to place politicians in parts of town they shouldn't be, is just too tempting.
It's a powerful and useful law enforcement tool,otherwise.
It's a powerful and useful law enforcement tool,otherwise.
Originally Posted By: dblshock
this is a huge leap..too much..more bad police than good ones.
Quite a jump there...first scanning a publicly available registration mark on a vehicle and now it's all the bad cops.
Can you conjure up a solid statement before putting your tinfoil hat back on?
Here let me help you...
Wisconsin Court
If you have nothing to hide give us your name?
this is a huge leap..too much..more bad police than good ones.
Quite a jump there...first scanning a publicly available registration mark on a vehicle and now it's all the bad cops.
Can you conjure up a solid statement before putting your tinfoil hat back on?
Here let me help you...
Wisconsin Court
If you have nothing to hide give us your name?
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Originally Posted By: dblshock
some of these cruisers are set-up with cameras everywhere, frt, back, side..they're so focused on the computer it's endangering the public not to mention missing other activity going on around them...most are Barney Fife type IQ's or worse.
I think an alarm type noise is made when a tag is a 'hit'. This allows the Officer to concentrate on what's going on around him and not tunnel vision in the computer screen. Has there been an increase in traffic accidents involving police officers whose cruisers are equipped with cameras? What exactly is a 'Barney Fife type IQ's or worse'?
some of these cruisers are set-up with cameras everywhere, frt, back, side..they're so focused on the computer it's endangering the public not to mention missing other activity going on around them...most are Barney Fife type IQ's or worse.
I think an alarm type noise is made when a tag is a 'hit'. This allows the Officer to concentrate on what's going on around him and not tunnel vision in the computer screen. Has there been an increase in traffic accidents involving police officers whose cruisers are equipped with cameras? What exactly is a 'Barney Fife type IQ's or worse'?
When you view the demo's it is totally distracting the operator...
you get into many of these rural sheriff deputy's and the kooks shouldn't have guns for sure not to mention this ALPR or even radar...I had a punk radar me once hiding at the 55 speed sign just out of town, slob had his hand on the gun and shouted from the trunk of my late model car..I was working had a suit & tie on and no record at all.
you get into many of these rural sheriff deputy's and the kooks shouldn't have guns for sure not to mention this ALPR or even radar...I had a punk radar me once hiding at the 55 speed sign just out of town, slob had his hand on the gun and shouted from the trunk of my late model car..I was working had a suit & tie on and no record at all.
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When you view the demo's it is totally distracting the operator...
you get into many of these rural sheriff deputy's and the kooks shouldn't have guns for sure not to mention this ALPR or even radar...I had a punk radar me once hiding at the 55 speed sign just out of town, slob had his hand on the gun and shouted from the trunk of my late model car..I was working had a suit & tie on and no record at all.
Finally, we're getting somewhere. You had a bad experience with a cop and just decided to brand the whole profession. Did you make a complaint against the officer? Did you go to court to contest the ticket? Does the wearing of a suit and tie give you special privileges? You don't have to like cops...just man up and admit your prejudice and bias.
When you view the demo's it is totally distracting the operator...
you get into many of these rural sheriff deputy's and the kooks shouldn't have guns for sure not to mention this ALPR or even radar...I had a punk radar me once hiding at the 55 speed sign just out of town, slob had his hand on the gun and shouted from the trunk of my late model car..I was working had a suit & tie on and no record at all.
Finally, we're getting somewhere. You had a bad experience with a cop and just decided to brand the whole profession. Did you make a complaint against the officer? Did you go to court to contest the ticket? Does the wearing of a suit and tie give you special privileges? You don't have to like cops...just man up and admit your prejudice and bias.
This data is worth money. Laws will be passed to generate more of this kind of revenue. We need more new laws because the old ones are worn out and reflect old fashioned principles from the old days 20 or 30 years ago when people were expected to be honest without anyone watching. This system will soon be expanded as technology develops to do facial recognition so the camera can be stationed in shopping malls and other places where people congregate. Matching this data to phone calls and e-mail, credit card transactions, banking activity, utility bills, US Mail, FedEx, UPS, air and bus travel, taxi trips and Internet activity will allow the government to better monitor us. The government will know if you are naughty or nice.
I look at this way: My license plate has always been visible. If I don't want it to be seen somewhere, I don't go there. Problem solved... Someone wants to waste their time connecting dots they will come to one conclusion: I'm pretty boring.
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