Whatever you guys are drinkin', I want some.
Please don't remind me. I've been to Monterey/Carmel, SF, Mendocino. Napa/Sonoma kicks A$$! Can't still forget that meal I had at the CIA 3 years ago.
i consider myself quite liberal, but i've disagreed with my representation on several issues and will not vote for them again, regardless of the fact that they are democrats.
I think Bush Sr. started the free trade ball rolling and Clinton continued it. I support it myself. Free Trade is the right idea, in the long run it makes everyone better off. The transitional periods (such as now), as economies realign themselves to the new reality, are difficult to manage and companies and governments need to do more to redeploy the workforce effectively. Companies need to bear the full cost of off-shoring in terms of retirement packages for older workers, and training packages for those who still want to work.
That's not true, I think most Libs accept that politicians lie. No one can get elected being 100% honest, sadly, the electorate not sophisticated enough to deal with complete honesty. (Kinda like Jack Nicholson...."you want the truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH"!!!!)
Sure there are people that are lazy or pathetic that do not deserve help and abuse the system. But let me ask you this - you take a mimimum wage job (lets face it most of those people are gonna get min wage jobs) so who is gonna look after the kids? Oh!! now you lose your medicaid and subsidized housing and your teenager takes off an you get busted for child abandonment. The reality is, you have NO IDEA what challanges those people face. Sure some of them made bad choices, but everyone deserves another chance and the help to put their life right, if we don't do it, then their kids end up in jail at $95/day, now what kind of solution is that??
You should have to pass a test before you are allowed to have a kid. If you have one and can't take care of it then you should be spayed/neutered so you can't have anymore. There I fixed that problem. You got any other you want me to handle. Does this make me a liberal or a conservative? I get confused with all of the labelingquote:
Originally posted by mnztr:
Sure there are people that are lazy or pathetic that do not deserve help and abuse the system. But let me ask you this - you take a mimimum wage job (lets face it most of those people are gonna get min wage jobs) so who is gonna look after the kids? Oh!! now you lose your medicaid and subsidized housing and your teenager takes off an you get busted for child abandonment. The reality is, you have NO IDEA what challanges those people face. Sure some of them made bad choices, but everyone deserves another chance and the help to put their life right, if we don't do it, then their kids end up in jail at $95/day, now what kind of solution is that??
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Originally posted by mnztr:
How in the world can you say that Democrats are more fair? That is the definition of equitable,being fair.
They take from one group and give it to those that are in many instances,to sorry and or lazy to work.Dont get me wrong,I understand that there are some people that really need help,I am all for that.If a person needs help,I have no qualms with them getting help.
It is those that are to sorry and or lazy to knock a fly off of them and are setting at home getting government checks and food stamps that bother me.If the truth was known,I would say that a very large majority of those on public assistance are as I said,to lazy to work.
Let these sorry things work.I see help- wanted in the news paper every time I see one.
They cant say that they cant find a job.
Before the Liberal bleeding hearts bunch chimes in here.I started out in a low paying job like most any other person did.That is how it usually works.I worked my way up and in doing so,I received a pretty good salary.
The majority,my guess,99% that say they 'cant' find a job are doing so because they just dont want to work or because they think they should start at the top.It just doesn't work this way.
The thing is,why should they work? They have it made on the government system.
The get a check every month for setting at home.They more than likely get food stamps,there is a good chance that they are in some type of subsidized housing and more than likely they are getting 'free' healthcare.
How is this fair to the rest of us?
Many of these programs are touted to these people by the Democrats.
Yep,that sounds fair to me.
I think if you looked at social assistance payments you'd conclude pretty quickly that life on that level of income is no bowl of cherries. That said, there are some "working poor" scenarios that are even worse, so yes some reform my be put in place to ensure that people are better of if they work, no matter how menial a job it is.
