Leaving a good marriage

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I been watching videos on the tube with woman (100%) of the time, filming themselves telling social media that they have a good man as a husband but are not happy in the marriage. There is just something missing they say. I have read that 70% of divorces are initiated by the woman these days. Then my mother sees this in her AARP magazine. I guess it’s a real thing. They say a man will forgo his happiness for his family, a woman will forgo her family for her happiness. I keep reading that only 1 out of 30 men ages 20-30 are in a relationship. These 29 men just don’t want to deal with the modern American woman. They are happy and in peace being single. They’re tired of being put in the friend zone also. What’s your take on this subject?

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From what I can see working at a university (single data point) men are really messed up these days also. In fact, I take that back somewhat. I witnessed both my dad and my father-in-law (I'm 70) that had very serious ego issues (sense of self, self-worth, or identity). They identified with John Wayne type attributes to hide insecurities in my opinion. Kind of like Archie Bunker, for those who are familiar with that TV character.

I've read articles about "quiet quitting" in both work and marriage situations. I question that it's primarily a woman problem as you suggest above.

@Finklejag the numbers I find in a quicky search indicate about 37% of young men are in relationships, which quickly debunks your data (1 in 30).

EDIT: I had to look up MGTOW - learn something new here every day. Thanks.
 
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As it gets harder and harder for men in the 99% to earn and keep money, they're being more wary of entering into any kind of relationship that may jeopardize whatever toys or property they have and whatever nest egg they've managed to put away. Courts still heavily favor the women during a divorce and men end up living in a studio apartment driving a crappy car when it's over. Marriages are too easy to get out of, and men are too easily taken to the cleaners, so what's the benefit in tying the knot? The 40% chance that it will succeed? I don't think that's good enough for most men these days. The ease of ending a marriage and coming out of it financially secure encourages women to seek emotionally greener pastures, even when most of the time they really aren't greener. The more simple-minded believe that how a man behaves in the dating phase is how he's going to behave for the entire marriage, so when the women go out and cheat and think they found emotional paydirt, they most of the time end up single, or worse yet, attempt to return to the marriage. Smart and sensible men want no part of any of this.
 
From what I can see working at a university (single data point) men are really messed up these days also.

No kidding. Not the same but to the observation above for some reason the number of males turning into females is greater than 2:1 vs female to male modifications. I'm too old to even try to understand it.
 
I been watching videos on the tube with woman (100%) of the time, filming themselves telling social media that they have a good man as a husband but are not happy in the marriage. There is just something missing they say. I have read that 70% of divorces are initiated by the woman these days. Then my mother sees this in her AARP magazine. I guess it’s a real thing. They say a man will forgo his happiness for his family, a woman will forgo her family for her happiness. I keep reading that only 1 out of 30 men ages 20-30 are in a relationship. These 29 men just don’t want to deal with the modern American woman. They are happy and in peace being single. They’re tired of being put in the friend zone also. What’s your take on this subject?

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I suspect the YT videos are fake. The I also suspect the biggest issue is that the earnings gap has reduced to the point where men aren't able to out earn women until sometime in their 30's.
 
Maybe a person that uses this excuse is just trying to make themselves look good or feel good about themselves as they explain it to the person listening?
Good man/husband, but something’s missing?
Good woman/wife, but something’s missing?
There’s a huge possibility that something more is going on, but saying something like this shines a better light on them than telling the truth.

Hard to say. Unless you live in someone’s head, you just don’t know for sure.
 
As it gets harder and harder for men in the 99% to earn and keep money, they're being more wary of entering into any kind of relationship that may jeopardize whatever toys or property they have and whatever nest egg they've managed to put away. Courts still heavily favor the women during a divorce and men end up living in a studio apartment driving a crappy car when it's over. Marriages are too easy to get out of, and men are too easily taken to the cleaners, so what's the benefit in tying the knot? The 40% chance that it will succeed? I don't think that's good enough for most men these days. The ease of ending a marriage and coming out of it financially secure encourages women to seek emotionally greener pastures, even when most of the time they really aren't greener. The more simple-minded believe that how a man behaves in the dating phase is how he's going to behave for the entire marriage, so when the women go out and cheat and think they found emotional paydirt, they most of the time end up single, or worse yet, attempt to return to the marriage. Smart and sensible men want no part of any of this.
So I have seen different studies than yours on young people. A lot more young men claim to be single than women. Do the math. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...alentines-day-5-facts-about-single-americans/

Lots of other statistics - such as the higher the education level the less likely you are to be single.

Either way I wouldn't put a whole lot of weight into some housewives of YouTube video either way.
 
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