Leaking AA batteries

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I opened my SOLO radar detector and found the 2 AA CopperTop batteries had leaked even though the unit was still working. This prompted me to open two other devices that used AAs CopperTop batteries and found that they all leaked to some degree. I was really surprised. Maybe worth checking your device that used the same batteries. Ed

My results mirror yours. The CopperTop batteries now leak well before their "use by" date. I have a ruined laser level that unused 2024 batteries leaked in. So ANGRY!!!
 
I agree on the eneloops. I have about 28 AA eneloops (8 are Japanese made Amazon Basics that are supposed to be rewrapped eneloops). I have a couple of flashlights that take 9 AA batteries and a 6 AA spotlight that I keep in my truck and use all the time. The AA eneloops are only a little over $2 each, I figure that if I only get 4-5 recharges, they have paid for themselves, an Energizer alkaline AA is close to $0.50.
I have about 16 eneloop AA’s that are about 3 years old and have probably 30 cycles on them, I haven’t noticed any capacity loss yet. I have never had an nimh battery leak or vent and destroy any of my electronics.
I also use 3xAA to D battery adapters and use 6 eneloops in my 2D Maglites, be careful with those adapters, some of them put the batteries in series instead of in parallel.
I also use AAA rechargeables in my headlamps (I work outside at night a lot). I recharge (or replace if using alkaline) my headlamp batteries about 2-3x per week. So my rechargeables keep at least 9 alkaline batteries out of the landfill and save me a little cash every week. I have also had this set of AAAs for about 3 years and some of them are starting to get high resistance and won’t charge on my Panasonic BQ-CC17 any more. I still consider this a win, 3 years at 1 recharge per set per week has saved me a ton of money.
That’s 450 sets of 3 AAA alkaline batteries, or 1,350 batteries. AAA energizer batteries are $0.43 each on amazon if you buy the 48 pack, so those 1,350 alkaline batteries would have cost me $580.
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An 8 pack of AAA eneloops is $16.99 or ~$2.12/ battery. If I only get 150 recharges out of each battery, it has cost me less than 2 cents per cycle, saving me over $0.40 per battery each time I recharge them, not accounting for electricity, which is almost too minimal to account for. If you tossed them out and replaced them annually, you would still be way better off than buying alkaline batteries all the time. Alkalines do have their place, but if you use a lot of batteries like I do, rechargeables are the way to go.
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The pictured Rayovac AAAs are around 10 years old and still kicking. They have been in storage for about 5 years, I left them in an LED candle and forgot that I had them. I got them back out and they are still going strong and used regularly in my headlamp. I have 16 AAAs and 9 of them are dedicated to my headlamps and get rotated out every time I recharge a set.
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I keep a Maglite solitaire on me most of the time and it always has a rechargeable in it too. I actually have a Harbor Freight rechargeable in it, the battery in it is around a year old and gets charged 1-2 times per week. Those HF batteries have been surprisingly good so far.
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I think the important thing with rechargeables is having a smart charger that charges batteries individually and terminates charging when the battery is full. I have 3 Panasonic BQ-CC17 chargers and I keep a LiitoKala Lii-202 in my truck in case I need to recharge on the go. They also make a 4 bay version of that charger, which is what I wish I had bought instead of the 2 bay. They LiitoKala will also recharge lithium batteries.
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The best thing to do is use a charger that charges cells individually to avoid over or undercharging. When cells are charged in series there could be little differences where one cell might keep on getting a charge or it stops to protect from overcharging the weak cell. There isn't too much of a problem using batteries that are slightly different in terms of capacity/performance. I've got a couple of those Panasonic chargers that you have. I missed out on getting the Costco pack that included one with a USB charging port and a series of adapters in a carrying case.

Also - technically they're not rewrapped Eneloops. They're rewrapped Fujitsus. Back in 2009 when Panasonic purchased Sanyo, they ended up selling their NiMH battery division to FDK Fujitsu to deal with antitrust concerns in the US, China, and EU. Panasonic still markets batteries, although they're made by Fujitsu. The current version came out in 2014, and was developed by Fujitsu. There was a time when Panasonic was buying some low self-discharge NiMH batteries from some company in China, but they weren't very good.

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/pre...-sets-conditions-panasonics-acquisition-sanyo
https://www.reuters.com/article/urn...ts-to-win-eu-merger-ok-idUS117276493120090930
https://www.reuters.com/article/san...f-battery-business-to-fdk-idUST29375620091028

I've never had an Eneloop (or equivalent) have a leak which resulted in liquid coming out. I did have a few that ended up leaking out some sort of powder, but that didn't damage anything. There are a few others in different labels. I still have some working Sony CycleEnergy batteries that are labelled as made in Japan. They're about 7-8 years old but still work fine. I forgot them in a bag after about 5 years and they still had a charge.

As far as alkalines go - most will leak if they're depleted all the way down and they're not replaced in time.
 
Personally, I'm very happy with Ikea Ladda batteries and their Kvarts wall charger while I use MiBoxer charger mostly.
I use white jacketed ones, they are made in Japan by Panasonic being same thing as Eneloops, great batteries and at great price in Ikea.
 
Personally, I'm very happy with Ikea Ladda batteries and their Kvarts wall charger while I use MiBoxer charger mostly.
I use white jacketed ones, they are made in Japan by Panasonic being same thing as Eneloops, great batteries and at great price in Ikea.
Ikea purchases batteries from Fujitsu. Panasonic has been out of the NiMH battery manufacturing business for over a decade.
 
I've also seen more Duracell leaks than others, though in recent years I've tried to keep track of things using alkalines and check those more often, so if they leak I catch it before it's damaging or requires disassembly to clean it. I now have a list of what has alkalines or rechargeables in it, which I started making to try to figure out where the heck all my NiMH batteries went but then the list became useful for checking alkalines too.

I've switched to Fujitsu, Eneloop, and Tenergy LSD NiMH for most things designed for alkalines except clocks, and mains AC powered smoke detector backup batteries which are 9V, though when a product comes with primary cells (which the smoke detectors did IIRC, as do many remote controls) I go ahead and use them till they're exhausted or leak. I got bulk of the Tenergy Centura AA a few years back on sale and they've been a great value but their diameter is slightly larger so they don't fit a few things with poorly dimensioned battery bays.

I've only had one set of no-name brand NiMH that leaked a powdery residue out the back but they came out of the package that way.

Fujitsu and Eneloop Pro, have not done well for me. Their IR went high fast and their capacity tanked, well before 100 cycles. I started out using them in flashlights and now only put them in very low drain devices like remote controls and battery backup for mains AC powered clocks.
 
Ikea purchases batteries from Fujitsu. Panasonic has been out of the NiMH battery manufacturing business for over a decade.

Interesting, would you care to share where the info comes from re Fujitsu made Ikea labeled batts?

I know Panny bought Sanyo (who originally produces 'loops) in 2009 thus 'loops batteries were labeled as made by Panny from then on, and Panny was still documented making them in 2015.
And I read someplace there was only one factory in Japan that made NiMH batteries while labeling them for all other brands (made in Japan NiMH batteries).
Here is WiKi on 'loops: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eneloop
 
Fujitsu and Eneloop Pro, have not done well for me. Their IR went high fast and their capacity tanked, well before 100 cycles. I started out using them in flashlights and now only put them in very low drain devices like remote controls and battery backup for mains AC powered clocks.

One of the main and the original reason I started switching to NiMH (Ladda) batts was flashlight use, still use them and am very happy with them.
I carry spare batt for my Fenix light thou, batt lasts longer than alc batt but 'dies' rather quickly when getting low on charge.
 
Interesting, would you care to share where the info comes from re Fujitsu made Ikea labeled batts?

I know Panny bought Sanyo (who originally produces 'loops) in 2009 thus 'loops batteries were labeled as made by Panny from then on, and Panny was still documented making them in 2015.
And I read someplace there was only one factory in Japan that made NiMH batteries while labeling them for all other brands (made in Japan NiMH batteries).
Here is WiKi on 'loops: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eneloop

I can't specifically verify where Ikea buys them, but it's a pretty simple logical conclusion. It says it right in the Wikipedia entry on Eneloop that you linked that Panasonic/Sanyo sold off their NiMH battery business to FDK/Fujitsu.
Sanyo was acquired by Panasonic in 2009. In exchange for the US FTC's approval of the takeover, Panasonic agreed to sell Sanyo's portable NiMH battery business to Fujitsu subsidiary FDK in order to preserve competition, and later did so.

Following this, Panasonic retained the "Eneloop" trademark, but continued to source the batteries themselves from the same former-Sanyo factories (now owned by FDK).
 
I stand corrected, thank you.
Still same manuf process and batt composition it seems, and they Ladda are my go to batts since I discovered them, very good price at Ikea for same batts as Fujitsu or similar.
 
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"I have not had ANY brand of alkaline battery that hasn't leaked.
I have switched to using old-fashioned zinc-carbon batteries in all of my remote controls because of leaking alkaline batteries. They used to be much cheaper than alkaline batteries but now they are about the same price. "

Get em cheap at HF.
 
I had an inexpensive flashlite ruined by a name brand alkaline battery, forget which company, but always wanted to test the part where on the battery it says "if this ruins your device, we will repair or replace the device". I called the #, and she says what is the date on the battery? It didn't have one! Knock-off I guess.
 
I had an inexpensive flashlite ruined by a name brand alkaline battery, forget which company, but always wanted to test the part where on the battery it says "if this ruins your device, we will repair or replace the device". I called the #, and she says what is the date on the battery? It didn't have one! Knock-off I guess.

The worst leaking alkalines I've ever encountered were Ikea made for them by Varta. It said that it was made by Varta along with "Made in Germany" on the label. Those things leaked long before they were fully drained. I get that some batteries leak but these were almost guaranteed to leak.

Heck - I've some batteries I got in 2011. Member's Mark at Sam's Club, which seemed to have the same construction as Energizer. They hadn't leaked even in around 2020 when I just replaced them anyways.
 
I tried to use a flashlight today. Wouldn't work. I opened it up to replace the batteries, and the Duracell "Procell" AAA's had leaked and caused corrosion of the springs and contacts, ruining the flashlight.
 
I have not had ANY brand of alkaline battery that hasn't leaked.
I have switched to using old-fashioned zinc-carbon batteries in all of my remote controls because of leaking alkaline batteries. They used to be much cheaper than alkaline batteries but now they are about the same price.
Yes, we too in the remotes! Freaking alkaline batteries are garbage for low drain devices in which they sit for a long time.
 
Using made in China batteries?
Ive generally bought Rayovac because they claim to be US made. Some of those seem to not hold SOC when in the package, before the "due date". Was given costo batteries in some kids toys, of which a good number leaked; dont recall COO but I wouldnt doubt it.
 
I tried to use a flashlight today. Wouldn't work. I opened it up to replace the batteries, and the Duracell "Procell" AAA's had leaked and caused corrosion of the springs and contacts, ruining the flashlight.
We had some of those leak in a timer and another device, FWIW when I called them up they sent me a check to buy new devices and sent a coupon for more batteries. The lady on the phone asked what the devices sold for so I gave her Amazon's current price and that's what I got.
 
We had some of those leak in a timer and another device, FWIW when I called them up they sent me a check to buy new devices and sent a coupon for more batteries. The lady on the phone asked what the devices sold for so I gave her Amazon's current price and that's what I got.

Oh wow! Now that is service.

I’ll have to give them a call.

Thanks for mentioning that.
 
I am yet to see a leaking Energizer lithium battery. I'm sure they do leak, but in years since they became available I have never had a problem. I have had copper top batteries leak and damage good flashlights. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
 
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