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Lab burgers are on the way.. since 2013, now coming soon..
Lab burgers are on the way.. since 2013, now coming soon..
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There is a documentary of interest you can watch as an Amazon Prime member called Food Inc.
In another reading I found out ---- the grain that feeds the cattle we slaughter would feed every person in the world that is near starvation,,,amazing.
Originally Posted by CourierDriver
In another reading I found out ---- the grain that feeds the cattle we slaughter would feed every person in the world that is near starvation,,,amazing.
Not to mention the water required, the amount of methane released, and the risk to nearby water supplies. We are capable of better, for sure.
In another reading I found out ---- the grain that feeds the cattle we slaughter would feed every person in the world that is near starvation,,,amazing.
Not to mention the water required, the amount of methane released, and the risk to nearby water supplies. We are capable of better, for sure.
Originally Posted by CourierDriver
In another reading I found out ---- the grain that feeds the cattle we slaughter would feed every person in the world that is near starvation,,,amazing.
There's actually plenty of food in the world. The people who are starving are due to a political problem. They can be fed if the politics allowed it.
In another reading I found out ---- the grain that feeds the cattle we slaughter would feed every person in the world that is near starvation,,,amazing.
There's actually plenty of food in the world. The people who are starving are due to a political problem. They can be fed if the politics allowed it.
Originally Posted by CourierDriver
In another reading I found out ---- the grain that feeds the cattle we slaughter would feed every person in the world that is near starvation,,,amazing.
Not so amazing, then we'd look like cows, that don't need to have long lifespans. The point of meat is the high protein (to anything else) ratio. Most grain has far too high a carb to protein ratio. You wouldn't starve but you'd be sick from a bad diet. Humans need grain based carbs the least of any "natural food" in their diet besides empty carbs like sugar.
A starving person would certainly be better off eating grain than nothing, but the same is true for a starving cow !!
In another reading I found out ---- the grain that feeds the cattle we slaughter would feed every person in the world that is near starvation,,,amazing.
Not so amazing, then we'd look like cows, that don't need to have long lifespans. The point of meat is the high protein (to anything else) ratio. Most grain has far too high a carb to protein ratio. You wouldn't starve but you'd be sick from a bad diet. Humans need grain based carbs the least of any "natural food" in their diet besides empty carbs like sugar.
A starving person would certainly be better off eating grain than nothing, but the same is true for a starving cow !!
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Originally Posted by DBMaster
Anyone tried the "Impossible Burger?" I learned about it earlier this year and am interested. It's more like plant based meat. Very interesting concept.
Asimov does it again. Or, rather, in 1953, with The Caves of Steel.
Anyone tried the "Impossible Burger?" I learned about it earlier this year and am interested. It's more like plant based meat. Very interesting concept.
Asimov does it again. Or, rather, in 1953, with The Caves of Steel.
Originally Posted by DBMaster
Anyone tried the "Impossible Burger?" I learned about it earlier this year and am interested. It's more like plant based meat. Very interesting concept.
My wife did. She liked it. She thought it could easily replace a meat burger for her. She was part of a group trying it. One of the guys in her group was a real hardcore burger connoisseur, and according to him, the Impossible Burger has a long way to go. He wasn't a fan.
Anyone tried the "Impossible Burger?" I learned about it earlier this year and am interested. It's more like plant based meat. Very interesting concept.
My wife did. She liked it. She thought it could easily replace a meat burger for her. She was part of a group trying it. One of the guys in her group was a real hardcore burger connoisseur, and according to him, the Impossible Burger has a long way to go. He wasn't a fan.
Originally Posted by DBMaster
Anyone tried the "Impossible Burger?" I learned about it earlier this year and am interested. It's more like plant based meat. Very interesting concept.
I have. It was good. Better than beyond burger (which is also good). Pretty much all of them I have tried have a bit of a chewy texture/quality, the impossible burger was much less so than typical.
I'm actually looking forward to the wide availability of lab raised meat. I don't understand why anyone would be adverse to it honestly...
Anyone tried the "Impossible Burger?" I learned about it earlier this year and am interested. It's more like plant based meat. Very interesting concept.
I have. It was good. Better than beyond burger (which is also good). Pretty much all of them I have tried have a bit of a chewy texture/quality, the impossible burger was much less so than typical.
I'm actually looking forward to the wide availability of lab raised meat. I don't understand why anyone would be adverse to it honestly...
Originally Posted by CourierDriver
In another reading I found out ---- the grain that feeds the cattle we slaughter would feed every person in the world that is near starvation,,,amazing.
You really ARE on some sort of evangelical campaign over the last few months, aren't you ?
Animals and meat proteins are great at converting stuff that we can't eat (grass, pasture) into stuff that we can eat, and were designed to eat.
Cattle were never ever, ever, meant to eat grains...the animals are unhealthy, the people who eat grain fed cattle are unhealthy, and yes, it's an utter waste of resources to do so.
The "Interest Groups", on both side (one the grain lobby, the other the purveyors of the "facts" that you are swallowing) will not accept that nature has
:
* animals healthily eating grass
* humans healthily eating animals (that eat grass)
There's another BITOGer, who has an interest in hauling grains, who claims that "grain is the seed of greases, so is therefore grass"...all disingenuous tripe.
Cattle grass fed have good amounts of Omega 3...two weeks in a stall, and that's gone, replaced with unhealthy amounts of Omega 6...an inefficient, and decielt unhealthy process, that does not equate beef to environmental, nor health vandalism.
In another reading I found out ---- the grain that feeds the cattle we slaughter would feed every person in the world that is near starvation,,,amazing.
You really ARE on some sort of evangelical campaign over the last few months, aren't you ?
Animals and meat proteins are great at converting stuff that we can't eat (grass, pasture) into stuff that we can eat, and were designed to eat.
Cattle were never ever, ever, meant to eat grains...the animals are unhealthy, the people who eat grain fed cattle are unhealthy, and yes, it's an utter waste of resources to do so.
The "Interest Groups", on both side (one the grain lobby, the other the purveyors of the "facts" that you are swallowing) will not accept that nature has
:
* animals healthily eating grass
* humans healthily eating animals (that eat grass)
There's another BITOGer, who has an interest in hauling grains, who claims that "grain is the seed of greases, so is therefore grass"...all disingenuous tripe.
Cattle grass fed have good amounts of Omega 3...two weeks in a stall, and that's gone, replaced with unhealthy amounts of Omega 6...an inefficient, and decielt unhealthy process, that does not equate beef to environmental, nor health vandalism.
Originally Posted by CourierDriver
In another reading I found out ---- the grain that feeds the cattle we slaughter would feed every person in the world that is near starvation,,,amazing.
You ready to give up all beef so we can feed the world?
Most folks in the developed world are not willing to give up beef for this effort would be my guess.
In another reading I found out ---- the grain that feeds the cattle we slaughter would feed every person in the world that is near starvation,,,amazing.
You ready to give up all beef so we can feed the world?
Most folks in the developed world are not willing to give up beef for this effort would be my guess.
Originally Posted by Shannow
Originally Posted by CourierDriver
In another reading I found out ---- the grain that feeds the cattle we slaughter would feed every person in the world that is near starvation,,,amazing.
You really ARE on some sort of evangelical campaign over the last few months, aren't you ?
Animals and meat proteins are great at converting stuff that we can't eat (grass, pasture) into stuff that we can eat, and were designed to eat.
Cattle were never ever, ever, meant to eat grains...the animals are unhealthy, the people who eat grain fed cattle are unhealthy, and yes, it's an utter waste of resources to do so.
The "Interest Groups", on both side (one the grain lobby, the other the purveyors of the "facts" that you are swallowing) will not accept that nature has
:
* animals healthily eating grass
* humans healthily eating animals (that eat grass)
There's another BITOGer, who has an interest in hauling grains, who claims that "grain is the seed of greases, so is therefore grass"...all disingenuous tripe.
Cattle grass fed have good amounts of Omega 3...two weeks in a stall, and that's gone, replaced with unhealthy amounts of Omega 6...an inefficient, and decielt unhealthy process, that does not equate beef to environmental, nor health vandalism.
Australian beef here is advertised as such, and carries a price premium.
If its American (as most of it is) they keep quiet about it.
Never seen Scottish beef advertised here. They probably can't afford it
Originally Posted by CourierDriver
In another reading I found out ---- the grain that feeds the cattle we slaughter would feed every person in the world that is near starvation,,,amazing.
You really ARE on some sort of evangelical campaign over the last few months, aren't you ?
Animals and meat proteins are great at converting stuff that we can't eat (grass, pasture) into stuff that we can eat, and were designed to eat.
Cattle were never ever, ever, meant to eat grains...the animals are unhealthy, the people who eat grain fed cattle are unhealthy, and yes, it's an utter waste of resources to do so.
The "Interest Groups", on both side (one the grain lobby, the other the purveyors of the "facts" that you are swallowing) will not accept that nature has
:
* animals healthily eating grass
* humans healthily eating animals (that eat grass)
There's another BITOGer, who has an interest in hauling grains, who claims that "grain is the seed of greases, so is therefore grass"...all disingenuous tripe.
Cattle grass fed have good amounts of Omega 3...two weeks in a stall, and that's gone, replaced with unhealthy amounts of Omega 6...an inefficient, and decielt unhealthy process, that does not equate beef to environmental, nor health vandalism.
Australian beef here is advertised as such, and carries a price premium.
If its American (as most of it is) they keep quiet about it.
Never seen Scottish beef advertised here. They probably can't afford it
Originally Posted by Shannow
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Cattle were never ever, ever, meant to eat grains.......
Not true - they would naturally eat the 'grain' (seed) TOGETHER with the rest of the plant, and be as healthy as possible.
The PROBLEM is feeding with TO MUCH grain in their diet ('engineered' feeds, feedlots, finishing-off) in the pursuit of 'efficiency' .....
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Cattle were never ever, ever, meant to eat grains.......
Not true - they would naturally eat the 'grain' (seed) TOGETHER with the rest of the plant, and be as healthy as possible.
The PROBLEM is feeding with TO MUCH grain in their diet ('engineered' feeds, feedlots, finishing-off) in the pursuit of 'efficiency' .....
Originally Posted by Shannow
Originally Posted by CourierDriver
In another reading I found out ---- the grain that feeds the cattle we slaughter would feed every person in the world that is near starvation,,,amazing.
You really ARE on some sort of evangelical campaign over the last few months, aren't you ?
Animals and meat proteins are great at converting stuff that we can't eat (grass, pasture) into stuff that we can eat, and were designed to eat.
Cattle were never ever, ever, meant to eat grains...the animals are unhealthy, the people who eat grain fed cattle are unhealthy, and yes, it's an utter waste of resources to do so.
The "Interest Groups", on both side (one the grain lobby, the other the purveyors of the "facts" that you are swallowing) will not accept that nature has
:
* animals healthily eating grass
* humans healthily eating animals (that eat grass)
There's another BITOGer, who has an interest in hauling grains, who claims that "grain is the seed of greases, so is therefore grass"...all disingenuous tripe.
Cattle grass fed have good amounts of Omega 3...two weeks in a stall, and that's gone, replaced with unhealthy amounts of Omega 6...an inefficient, and decielt unhealthy process, that does not equate beef to environmental, nor health vandalism.
Agree 100%. The problem is..at least here in Canada, its very difficult to find and expensive once you do find it. The USA might have more options but still expensive. I wish grass fed was mainstream but alot of factors exist as to why it doesnt, most people dont care and most people want whats cheap...just like the direction of our appliances have gone..cheap and into a landfill in record time.
Originally Posted by CourierDriver
In another reading I found out ---- the grain that feeds the cattle we slaughter would feed every person in the world that is near starvation,,,amazing.
You really ARE on some sort of evangelical campaign over the last few months, aren't you ?
Animals and meat proteins are great at converting stuff that we can't eat (grass, pasture) into stuff that we can eat, and were designed to eat.
Cattle were never ever, ever, meant to eat grains...the animals are unhealthy, the people who eat grain fed cattle are unhealthy, and yes, it's an utter waste of resources to do so.
The "Interest Groups", on both side (one the grain lobby, the other the purveyors of the "facts" that you are swallowing) will not accept that nature has
:
* animals healthily eating grass
* humans healthily eating animals (that eat grass)
There's another BITOGer, who has an interest in hauling grains, who claims that "grain is the seed of greases, so is therefore grass"...all disingenuous tripe.
Cattle grass fed have good amounts of Omega 3...two weeks in a stall, and that's gone, replaced with unhealthy amounts of Omega 6...an inefficient, and decielt unhealthy process, that does not equate beef to environmental, nor health vandalism.
Agree 100%. The problem is..at least here in Canada, its very difficult to find and expensive once you do find it. The USA might have more options but still expensive. I wish grass fed was mainstream but alot of factors exist as to why it doesnt, most people dont care and most people want whats cheap...just like the direction of our appliances have gone..cheap and into a landfill in record time.
Originally Posted by DuckRyder
Originally Posted by DBMaster
Anyone tried the "Impossible Burger?" I learned about it earlier this year and am interested. It's more like plant based meat. Very interesting concept.
I have. It was good. Better than beyond burger (which is also good). Pretty much all of them I have tried have a bit of a chewy texture/quality, the impossible burger was much less so than typical.
I'm actually looking forward to the wide availability of lab raised meat. I don't understand why anyone would be adverse to it honestly...
Id be adverse to it. Because its processed. I like meat, tons of it, and grass fed! MEATTT!! So yummy. Sorry..i had to be the one to make a rude post!
Originally Posted by DBMaster
Anyone tried the "Impossible Burger?" I learned about it earlier this year and am interested. It's more like plant based meat. Very interesting concept.
I have. It was good. Better than beyond burger (which is also good). Pretty much all of them I have tried have a bit of a chewy texture/quality, the impossible burger was much less so than typical.
I'm actually looking forward to the wide availability of lab raised meat. I don't understand why anyone would be adverse to it honestly...
Id be adverse to it. Because its processed. I like meat, tons of it, and grass fed! MEATTT!! So yummy. Sorry..i had to be the one to make a rude post!
cow milk is for calves..................look it up
Originally Posted by DuckRyder
Originally Posted by DBMaster
Anyone tried the "Impossible Burger?" I learned about it earlier this year and am interested. It's more like plant based meat. Very interesting concept.
I have. It was good. Better than beyond burger (which is also good). Pretty much all of them I have tried have a bit of a chewy texture/quality, the impossible burger was much less so than typical.
I'm actually looking forward to the wide availability of lab raised meat. I don't understand why anyone would be adverse to it honestly...
My wife is a vegetarian, we have both beyond burgers and impossible burgers on a fairly regular basis. I'm not a huge fan of the beyond burger, but she likes it. The impossible burger on the other hand, is pretty impressive and has opened up a lot of doors to restaurants that now have them that we previously wouldnt go to because she couldnt really find much she could (or wanted, I should say) to eat.
I've had them quite a few of times, depending on how they are cooked they can be a a bit better than your average veggy burger, to almost scary as to how close they made it look and taste like a real meat burger. At one local Irish pub we eat at, they make it so well that I had to put on a strong pair of readers and squeeze both my burger and her impossible burger. After a few taste tests, a lot of lip smacking, a few beer rinses, and squeezing the grease out of mine and really looking at, and tasting the texture, could I really determine that yes her's was the fake burger and mine was the real one.
As to why people would be adverse to it, yes it is processed and whether or not its any better for you than eating fatty meat with antibiotics or hormones or whatever else in it...I'm no expert. But talking about eating non-meat items as a substitute for meat products 99.97% of the time brings out the "If it looks like beef, and tastes like beef, why not just eat beef" debate that always follows. Well, if it looks like beef, and tastes like beef, then why eat beef? Around and around it goes. Gets old quick.
I work with a guy who worked in a slaughterhouse for a few years. He was adamant that 90% of people who eat meat would probably stop if they worked one week in a slaughterhouse and saw the process from start to finish. He gave up a few details, it didnt sound too pleasant...or the least bit sanitary, as the story went. I guess thats one reason to eat lab grown meat substitutes.
So lab grown food, sure whatever bring it on. May or may not be healthier, or taste the same, or be good for planet earth, but I'm open to it. If I genuinely cared about the healthiness of my food, I wouldnt be sitting here with a powdered donut and 32 ounce synthetically sweetened and artifically flavored and colored sugar water substitute called Coke Zero sitting next to my keyboard as I type this.
Originally Posted by DBMaster
Anyone tried the "Impossible Burger?" I learned about it earlier this year and am interested. It's more like plant based meat. Very interesting concept.
I have. It was good. Better than beyond burger (which is also good). Pretty much all of them I have tried have a bit of a chewy texture/quality, the impossible burger was much less so than typical.
I'm actually looking forward to the wide availability of lab raised meat. I don't understand why anyone would be adverse to it honestly...
My wife is a vegetarian, we have both beyond burgers and impossible burgers on a fairly regular basis. I'm not a huge fan of the beyond burger, but she likes it. The impossible burger on the other hand, is pretty impressive and has opened up a lot of doors to restaurants that now have them that we previously wouldnt go to because she couldnt really find much she could (or wanted, I should say) to eat.
I've had them quite a few of times, depending on how they are cooked they can be a a bit better than your average veggy burger, to almost scary as to how close they made it look and taste like a real meat burger. At one local Irish pub we eat at, they make it so well that I had to put on a strong pair of readers and squeeze both my burger and her impossible burger. After a few taste tests, a lot of lip smacking, a few beer rinses, and squeezing the grease out of mine and really looking at, and tasting the texture, could I really determine that yes her's was the fake burger and mine was the real one.
As to why people would be adverse to it, yes it is processed and whether or not its any better for you than eating fatty meat with antibiotics or hormones or whatever else in it...I'm no expert. But talking about eating non-meat items as a substitute for meat products 99.97% of the time brings out the "If it looks like beef, and tastes like beef, why not just eat beef" debate that always follows. Well, if it looks like beef, and tastes like beef, then why eat beef? Around and around it goes. Gets old quick.
I work with a guy who worked in a slaughterhouse for a few years. He was adamant that 90% of people who eat meat would probably stop if they worked one week in a slaughterhouse and saw the process from start to finish. He gave up a few details, it didnt sound too pleasant...or the least bit sanitary, as the story went. I guess thats one reason to eat lab grown meat substitutes.
So lab grown food, sure whatever bring it on. May or may not be healthier, or taste the same, or be good for planet earth, but I'm open to it. If I genuinely cared about the healthiness of my food, I wouldnt be sitting here with a powdered donut and 32 ounce synthetically sweetened and artifically flavored and colored sugar water substitute called Coke Zero sitting next to my keyboard as I type this.
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