Krown: Now or later?

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maxdustington Weatherstrip swelling is new to me said:
them off. Don't be that stupid picky customer who thinks they know better than the people you hired to do the job.

I'm not going to drive 80 miles in rain, get my car Krowned, and then immediately drive 80 miles home in a rain storm. I have no fear of [censored] them off. I am very transparent with the owner and he has no problem accommodating my needs. I've never had to cancel an appointment, but if necessary, it would be several days ahead of time, not last minute. I don't stay and hover over the technician during the application. I reciprocate their good nature with little things like giving them some homemade maple syrup each visit. If anything, I probably think the owner wishes he had more customers like me. Someone that cares about their vehicle and understands the nature of running a business.

Google "Krown rubber swelling" for lots of threads. I see that Rust Check and Corrosion Free shows up in some of the hits also.
 
Originally Posted by doitmyself
I probably think the owner wishes he had more customers like me. Someone that cares about their vehicle and understands the nature of running a business.
I'll bet a lot of people who don't care about their cars get them oil sprayed, you must be one of the only ones.
 
Originally Posted by doitmyself
Originally Posted by maxdustington Weatherstrip swelling is new to me, and I have had plenty of experience with vehicles that have been oil sprayed. If you cancel on them for such nonsense, you are just going to [censored] them off. Don't be that stupid picky customer who thinks they know better than the people you hired to do the job.


I'm not going to drive 80 miles in rain, get my car Krowned, and then immediately drive 80 miles home in a rainstorm. I have no fear of [censored] them off. I am very transparent with the owner and he has no problem accommodating my needs. I've never had to cancel an appointment, but if necessary, it would be several days ahead of time, not last minute. I don't stay and hover over the technician during the application. I reciprocate their good nature with little things like giving them some homemade maple syrup each visit. If anything, I probably think the owner wishes he had more customers like me. Someone that cares about their vehicle and understands the nature of running a business.

Google "Krown rubber swelling" for lots of threads. I see that Rust Check and Corrosion Free shows up in some of the hits also. [/quote


I don't blame you one bit. I wouldn't either and I bet the majority of people (who know a thing or two) wouldn't also.


Originally Posted by maxdustington

doitmyself said:
I probably think the owner wishes he had more customers like me. Someone that cares about their vehicle and understands the nature of running a business.
I'll bet a lot of people who don't care about their cars get them oil sprayed, you must be one of the only ones.


Huh? I'll bet the majority of people in Canada don't get their vehicles undercoated. I see way more rusted out vehicles than I do pristine ones, and that's the way it's been for a long time.
Lots of people don't even know about Krown or Rust Check nor know exactly what it does. Surprising, I know, but that is a fact. Also, many don't believe in it, many don't like the dripping or the mess. Many also think because their new vehicles have a rust warranty for 3 to 5 yrs, it's not required and is a waste of money.
Just read what this ignorant fellow has to say about it. Lots of misinformation out there.
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/glo...n-rust-proofing-your-car/article1389148/

When my buddies and I use to spray our own vehicles, we'd drive down a sandy/dusty road right after so the dirt would stick to the oil spray. Not once did any of us have any issues nor rust problems.
My old 97 Sierra, which was the last vehicle I sprayed myself is still in pristine condition. I sold it to my Nephew who sold it to his friend. It still looks in amazing shape. Too bad many will read what the doughhead said above as gospel.
 
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Totally agree that a lot of Canadians are very ignorant when it comes to rustproofing. The common opinion is that washing your car often during winter and applying wax is more than enough.
And most of the theories about oil rustproofing not working because of dirt, water or whatever are from people that obviously have never done it long term.

I have been a member on the TorontoMazda3Forums for a long time now and over the years have seen the internet experts argue how the first gen Mazda 3 is so much better protected from the factory than the Protege and that all is needed is frequent car washing and waxing. Then when the second gen showed up, it was the exact same thing, same thing with the third gen. On and on and on. It's almost comical seeing all these arguments being repeated ad nauseam.
 
All you guys talking about rusty cars and rust proofing, here's some pics to make you mad!
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This is my 22 year old Jeep with 147k miles. Dirty underneath from years of off-road desert driving.

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Originally Posted by KrisZ
Totally agree that a lot of Canadians are very ignorant when it comes to rustproofing. The common opinion is that washing your car often during winter and applying wax is more than enough.
And most of the theories about oil rustproofing not working because of dirt, water or whatever are from people that obviously have never done it long term.

I have been a member on the TorontoMazda3Forums for a long time now and over the years have seen the internet experts argue how the first gen Mazda 3 is so much better protected from the factory than the Protege and that all is needed is frequent car washing and waxing. Then when the second gen showed up, it was the exact same thing, same thing with the third gen. On and on and on. It's almost comical seeing all these arguments being repeated ad nauseam.
Lots of foreigners in Toronto who don't understand that while a car may not rust in Asia does not mean it will not rust in Toronto. There are MANY new CR-Vs and Rav 4s that will never be oil sprayed being DD'd. Anyone who has been here for a few winters and is not an idiot will get their cars oil sprayed.

Mainstream car media is so lame, obviously bought and paid for by the manufacturers who know people who oil spray their cars will not be buying new ones every 3-5 years.
 
Rust starts from the inside out on door panels for example. By the time you see it, it's too late and only a body shop can save it. That's why Waxing doesn't work. Because it's applied to the outside that is painted not the inside where it's just overspray and largely uncoated.
 
Originally Posted by StevieC
Rust starts from the inside out on door panels for example. By the time you see it, it's too late and only a body shop can save it. That's why Waxing doesn't work. Because it's applied to the outside that is painted not the inside where it's just overspray and largely uncoated.
Cars are dipped in a galvanic bath on the assembly line. That's usually enough to resist serious corrosion outside of the rust belt.
It's behind the front and rear wheels where the rust starts 99% of the time, where the paint and galvanic coating are abraded. It's the same reason some cars rust under emblems, or body moldings. Anywhere else is just thin paint/bad prep on the assembly line. My friend has a 2010 Mazda 3 that has small rust spots all over the hatch. He gets it oil sprayed every year, but that isn't enough. Should have gotten a VW!
 
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