Krown: Now or later?

[StevieC]

I park mine on the street for that night. (we have overnight parking) and then park in the driveway the next day. I find the majority of the dripping happens in the first 24 hours and then little there after. Either way it doesn't harm the asphalt. It washes away.

 

[Phishin]

Originally Posted by SatinSilver
Originally Posted by Phishin
Getting sprayed right now


How much was it? I'm trying to find a place to do the 05 Matrix. Monroe, MI isn't too far away I don't think.


$150

The guy who sprays Krown is the shop owner. Not some idiot kid. I highly recommend this shop

 

[JTK]

I'll find out tomorrow when I have my truck done, but for you guys who have yearly re-sprays done, is that still $150+ tax?

I know they have coupons a few times a year, but of course those go away in September.

 

[StevieC]

If you are an AAA member you might get a discount. We get a discount in Canada any time of the year with our CAA memberships.

 

[Phishin]

One observation.... And because this is my first time getting a vehicle sprayed, I thought I'd ask.

It was only 70 degrees here yesterday. And a bit overcast and "misty" at times.... But I didn't see any of these "drips" you guys are always complaining about.

Everything was wet with Krown when I got home, but I didn't notice any dripping. This stuff is a dirt magnet though!! He washed my truck with soap and a brush when he was done, but the bottom quarter of my body was dirty as [censored] when I got home. That's fine by me.... As long as it keeps any rust away

 

[StevieC]

That dirt attraction dies down, it's only bad at first I've found. As for the dripping, when I used to get my vehicles done in October I wouldn't have any. The first host day or baking in the sun and it will run for sure. So it might drip later.

 

[KrisZ]

70f I think it should drip. I've done it in similar temps and it did drip, although not as much as when the temps were in the 80s or 90s. Looks like another shop that applies the product sparingly, which made me stop going to them and DIY.

Although for our Grand Caravan I used another shop and they did a much better job. I had it Krowned once as I cannot get all the cavities done as well as they do with their fogging wands.

I would go back there and have them reapply. The very first application should drip a lot since the oil doesn't really have anything to hold onto. Subsequent treatments drip less because the oil can hold onto the previous coats and dirt.

 

[KrisZ]

I found the picture I took of the street when I had Krowned our minivan. I checked the properties and I took it on Sep 18, so the temps were similar.
This is how much it should drip, but this was taken after two or three days when I parked the car on the street.

 

[Phishin]

Originally Posted by KrisZ

I would go back there and have them reapply.


I know you aren't kidding, but I wish you were. I'm glad I'm not a business owner and you were one of my customers.

He spent 70 minutes spraying my truck (yes, that includes taping a new holes in the doors and tailgate), but he did a thorough job. Everything I could see was "shiny wet" with Krown. I'm sure, absolutely confident, that he did a great job. He was that kind of guy.

 

[Phishin]

I'll go back and check my driveway when I go home for lunch soon....and check my parking lot spot here at work.

It's burning off my exhaust (that probably takes a few hundred miles to complete, right?) and I can really smell it inside the cab of my truck.

 

[KrisZ]

The stuff will not run down the vehicle, buy slowly drip. If it is parked for few hours you should see spots.
I'm not as demanding as you may think from my previous post, but I have seen how much product Krowned used to apply and have seen them apply less and less. And I can only go by what you posted, if the guy truly did a good job and applied a lot of the product, you should see similar stains as I posted earlier. If not then he did not.
Just trying to help you and get your money's worth for the service, Idon't care about the business owner.

 

[Phishin]

Point taken. No spots at work where I parked for 4 hours. It's 63 degrees here. But there are 10 or so small spots on my driveway from the truck sitting all night.

 

[doitmyself]

My Krowned vehicle has never dripped as much as KrisZ's picture shows. I've been getting it done for five years, the first two in Windsor and now at Monroe, MI. Both places seem to not cut corners and even with asking the guy to spend a few more minutes (material) on it this fifth year, it did not drip like KrisZ's.

The material is pretty thin and you can only apply it until run off occurs. Its not like you can layer it on several thicknesses. I'm just not sure how you could apply it heavier/thicker. Having said that, it does seem to build somewhat more of a layer on the unwashed areas after a few years of application.

The disadvantage of oil sprays is the dirt accumulation mess. If you are obsessive about a pristine engine bay, etc., an oil spray will not agree with you.

Regarding timing, Krown's theory is that rust occurs worst during warm weather, so it is better to get it done in the spring to get the most protection. This is opposite of most people thinking you should get it done in the fall just before the onslaught of salty roads. They also imply that even though it might look washed off underneath, there is still a microscopic layer of protection, also different to most thinking that thicker is better. Stated elsewhere, I get mine sprayed in late spring and I use an aerosol can of the product to touch up exposed underneath areas in late fall to make me feel better.

 

[kschachn]

I find it interesting everyone here who says that after it drips on the driveway it washes away relatively easy with a rain. If that's the case then how does it stay on the car?

 

[StevieC]

Originally Posted by kschachn
I find it interesting everyone here who says that after it drips on the driveway it washes away relatively easy with a rain. If that's the case then how does it stay on the car?


It sticks to metals not to asphalt. It will stain interlocking and unsealed concrete though.

 

[KrisZ]

It my experience it washes away quite easily from the underside and from the wheel wells it's dry only after few months. That doesn't mean it's not protecting, sort of like a surface where oil has spilled and have been wiped away still repells water. But that is why it needs to be re-applied annually.

 

[StevieC]

As called out here, it's a self healing barrier. It goes on wet and then leaves a coating...

Here is their FAQ - http://www.krownstoneycreek.com/faqs/

 

[irv]

Originally Posted by JTK
I have an appointment tomorrow to have the Ram in my sig Krowned. We'll see how it goes. $149+tax. I kind of dread the drippage afterwards, but don't know what to expect yet. I'll have to park it on my lawn for awhile I presume. I've got an asphalt driveway.


I wouldn't do that as I would think it would kill the grass? Not that it's toxic or anything like that, I am just thinking coating the grass with this will smother/kill it?

As I read, I find it hard to believe someone's vehicle is not dripping much? Imo, it should somewhat, and for a couple/few days after as well. If you are only seeing a few small spots here and there, I would be concerned myself.

As Stevie posted, my road also looks the same as does my driveway now as it is impossible for me to leave all 3 vehicles on the road.
Also, it takes more than just a couple rain falls to get rid of it. I see signs of it until the snow flies but usually come spring, with snow blowing and shovelling over the winter, it is all gone.
Once a year for a couple months having a spotted driveway is worth it, imo.

 

[Phishin]

Originally Posted by doitmyself
My Krowned vehicle has never dripped as much as KrisZ's picture shows. I've been getting it done for five years, the first two in Windsor and now at Monroe, MI. Both places seem to not cut corners and even with asking the guy to spend a few more minutes (material) on it this fifth year, it did not drip like KrisZ's.

The material is pretty thin and you can only apply it until run off occurs. Its not like you can layer it on several thicknesses. I'm just not sure how you could apply it heavier/thicker. Having said that, it does seem to build somewhat more of a layer on the unwashed areas after a few years of application.

The disadvantage of oil sprays is the dirt accumulation mess. If you are obsessive about a pristine engine bay, etc., an oil spray will not agree with you.

Regarding timing, Krown's theory is that rust occurs worst during warm weather, so it is better to get it done in the spring to get the most protection. This is opposite of most people thinking you should get it done in the fall just before the onslaught of salty roads. They also imply that even though it might look washed off underneath, there is still a microscopic layer of protection, also different to most thinking that thicker is better. Stated elsewhere, I get mine sprayed in late spring and I use an aerosol can of the product to touch up exposed underneath areas in late fall to make me feel better.



doitmyself.....did you find great service and knowledge at the Monroe, MI shop? I'm glad to hear that yours doesn't drip like KrisZ's either.

Your logic was the same as what I was thinking: The underside can only "hold" onto so much Krown....over spraying so much only allows more run-off. I'm really confident that I received really good covered on my truck, regardless of the lack of an oily mess shown above.

 

[StevieC]

My dad parks his vehicle on his grass (he's rural), so it doesn't stain his unsealed concrete driveway. It never kills the grass. From what I understand it contains no solvents, harsh chemicals, it's non-toxic, environmentally friendly, It does have some petro-distillate in it but it's a low amount that doesn't seem to harm his grass. The guys at my local shop don't even wear masks. The owner has had his shop almost 30 years and never wears a mask and seems fine health wise. They advise them to wear masks, glasses and gloves but most never do anything more than the glasses. (Not advocating that, just pointing out that it doesn't seem to be anything potent)