killing weeds without poisoning well

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Originally Posted By: stro_cruiser
Glyphosate is NOT safe...... These pesticides have helped us become more and more lazy, looking for a quick way. Good luck!
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Glyphosate is NOT a pesticide! Get your facts straight!
 
Originally Posted By: CT8
Round Up ready GMO foods are saturated with Round Up and farmers use Round up to dry crops to speed up harvest. The consumers do not seem to care about eating Round up.

No. This is internet woo woo.

"Saturated" is fear mongering that mommy bloggers and organic food lobbyist groups have used to convince you to spend more money on their nonsense.

Everything is a chemical.

The dose makes the poison.

Glyphosate is less toxic than table salt and vinegar, measured by LD50. I'd be happy to link the MSDS if you'd like. It also breaks down in soil.

Enough of the scare tactics.
 
Originally Posted By: 4WD
Black rubber mats if you get good sunshine on them


This! I always take home old conveyor belts when we do a change, great flower bed weed control. Course, I let the dog have them first, then once they get funky they go in the garden.
 
Originally Posted By: ShotGun429
I live next to a 100 acre farm field 40 feet from my sole water well, they change each year from soybeans to feed corn and with no till they "Burn Down" the entire field with 100's of gallons of weedkiller of some sort each year,before they plant crops, should i be concerned?


I'd have your well water tested for chemicals.
 
Originally Posted By: Kuato
Originally Posted By: ShotGun429
I live next to a 100 acre farm field 40 feet from my sole water well, they change each year from soybeans to feed corn and with no till they "Burn Down" the entire field with 100's of gallons of weedkiller of some sort each year,before they plant crops, should i be concerned?

I'd have your well water tested for chemicals.

Unless testing for dark matter or the void of space, they will find it to contain 100% chemicals.
 
LD50 is a standard measurement of acute toxicity that is stated in milligrams (mg) of product per kilogram (kg) of body weight. An LD50 represents the individual dose required to kill 50 percent of a population of test animals (in this case, lab rats unless otherwise noted). As shown below, lower numbers show greater toxicity.

So, folks, we don't need to resort to Internet pseudoscience scare tactics about CHEMIKILLZ!!!. We have data and critical thinking skills.

Glyphosate 5,600
Acetic acid (vinegar) 3,310
Sodium chloride (table salt) 3,000

Some pesticides used in organic farming:

Rotenone 300-500 (human estimate)
Lime sulfur 820
Copper sulfate 30 - 472

Somehow, the organic foods marketing people and an army of mommybloggers have convinced many folks that glyphosate is evil poison, and at the same time that organic foods are produced without pesticides. Both are myths. Data obtained from real research and provided in the MSDS for these compounds shows that glyphosate has a low level of toxicity in humans; lower than salt, vinegar, and some pesticides used in organic farming.

Glyphosate is safe when used properly, and will not contaminate your well. Mix the 41% concentrate at a rate of 2.5 oz/gal. Add a squirt of dish detergent to act as a surfactant if there isn't one already listed on the container. Apply it during a bright day so it dries quickly on the plants that you desire to remove.
 
A note about vinegar:

Vinegar that you might buy in the grocery store is a 4-5% acetic acid solution. It won't do much to plants, although it might sicken some.

A 20% or greater acetic acid solution (sometimes marketed as "herbicidal vinegar") is strong enough to burn foliage, and is most effective when applied in direct sunlight. This isn't a systemic herbicide, but the plant might die if you burn off the foliage. Heartier weeds will just grow back, as this method doesn't destroy the roots. Higher contractions of acetic acid are also dangerous. Wear proper PPE if you're going that route.
 
How deep is your well? Considering that Glyphosate binds up with the soil very quickly after contact and doesn't go anywhere the chances of you using enough to have it migrate more than a couple inches deep in the soil is pretty slim. It will kill the weeds but because it binds with the soil so strongly it doesn't have any residual effect of future weeds. I would however not hesitate at all to use Roundup (the stuff advertised for extended control). You'll never use enough to make it to your well and unless you eat dirt your exposure will be entirely dependent on how much you spill on yourself.


If your dead set on a DIY weed killer you need a bucket of tap water, a bag of rock salt, a bottle of dish soap, vinegar. Put 3-4 gallons of water in the bucket, dissolve as much of the salt as the water will take (pour in the whole bag if you want and mix till it won't take any more) then add 8 ounces of dish soap and a gallon of vinegar. Apply very liberally, soak the weed and the ground around it heavily. It will kill the weeds and the salt should keep any more from coming up. For ground control you could salt the whole driveway like the Romans did to the crop fields when they were invading new territory.
 
Originally Posted By: Bandito440
Originally Posted By: Kuato
Originally Posted By: ShotGun429
I live next to a 100 acre farm field 40 feet from my sole water well, they change each year from soybeans to feed corn and with no till they "Burn Down" the entire field with 100's of gallons of weedkiller of some sort each year,before they plant crops, should i be concerned?

I'd have your well water tested for chemicals.

Unless testing for dark matter or the void of space, they will find it to contain 100% chemicals.


Well thank you, Mr. Science!
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Originally Posted By: Doog
Just spray them with Tetrachlorodibenzodioxin (TCDD) and that should do it.
I'm not sure what dioxin is going to do, although I'm assuming you were making a joke about Agent Orange or its components. TCDD was a contaminant that had no herbicidal properties to my knowledge.
 
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