I didn't bring up the example.That was 40 years ago!
I didn't bring up the example.That was 40 years ago!
True-the point being is that Hyundai/KIA isn't alone in bad motor design. I guess a more recent version could be the NorthStar. But-the point being is that posters think it's unique and it's not.That was 40 years ago!
True-the point being is that Hyundai/KIA isn't alone in bad motor design. I guess a more recent version could be the NorthStar.
It doesn't matter-just an example. Any way-the thread has gotten off track. The point being is that KIA is accepted and successful in the U.S. and the naysayers can't stand it.That was 30 years ago!
It doesn't matter-just an example.
The difference is, it wasn't the design, just bad execution / QC on Hyunda & Kia's part.True-the point being is that Hyundai/KIA isn't alone in bad motor design. I guess a more recent version could be the NorthStar.
Yep even from someone who drives a vehicle made in China......It’s no surprise a positive post about Hyundai or Kia turns into a Hyundai Hate Thread. It seems to happen here all the time.
Yep even from someone who drives a vehicle made in China......
2) AutomobilesPlease tell us what's wrong with something made in China....
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It's no secret that Chinese car companies just can't seem to compete with the much bigger named Honda, Toyota, or GM. For example, even BYD, considered by some (Warren Buffett anyway) to be China's best car company only sells about 520,000 cars per year, making it the sixth largest Chinese car seller—pretty pithy when you consider that Toyota sells around nine million per year. That may explain why BYD likes to, um, borrow designs—to the point where car dealerships in China were replacing the BYD emblem with a Toyota Corolla emblem, because apparently the two cars look exactly the same. Not to say that that BYD is alone in its copycat shenanigans; pretty much every other major Chinese automobile manufacturer, such as Chery, Great Wall Motor, and Shuanghuan, have all been accused of copying designs from Honda, Mercedes Benz, and GM as well. In fact, GM went so far as to accuse Chery of using the car it was copied from, GM's Matiz, instead of its own model, in a crash test to achieve higher safety ratings! Preposterous as it may sound, from the Chinese car manufacturer's perspective, it actually kind of makes sense that they'd prefer to use other manufacturer's cars in place of their own for crash test ratings: after all, independent crash tests were only instituted in 2006, while a large number Chinese cars still regularly receive absolutely dismal safety ratings. And surprise, surprise—most automobile experts blame cost cutting for the lack of safety standards in China.
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Hyundai produces cars for the Chinese market in China. None of those are imported to the U.S. Due to U.S. crash standards-yes any cars made only for the Chinese market COULD be inferior.Let me rephrase. Hyundai had 4 factories in China. Guess that means they're junk.
That's a bold statement coming from a parts guy.To be fair, I wouldn't trust a car manufactured in Alabama or Georgia any more than one from China.
Funny, I don't see Hyundai on that list of Chinese autos.... I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to know some really cheap, copied junk comes out of China pretty much more than any other place.Let me rephrase. Hyundai had 4 factories in China. Guess that means they're junk.