Keryy warned 3 times about hijackings at Logan Airport. Did nothing.

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You are right, I did enjoy it. Others here won't. I am sure they will attack the reliability of the site. It really upsets me the way you can't trust anything, and have to spend enormous amounts of time investigating hog wash. People attack things like this, and then post links to kook sites.

Assuming it is true, if Kerry tightened up Logan, they would have gone elsewhere. That doesn't excuse Kerry or the federal officials at that time. I notice the story doesn't foresee flying a plane into a building.
 
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Originally posted by labman:
You are right, I did enjoy it. Others here won't.

The news about the warnings to Kerry is not new, but hasn't made it to the liberal media yet, and maybe never will. The linked article names names.

You are probably correct that Al Qaeda might have simply moved on to another target. Or maybe we would have set up a sting and busted them.

Keith.
 
Just one question. People are ready to hang Bush saying that the government had enough information in advance to possibly stop the 9-11 attack. Well, if all of this stuff concerning Kerry is the truth, why are they not ready to hang Kerry?

Can I say DOUBLE STANDARD.
 
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Originally posted by Mystic:
Can I say DOUBLE STANDARD.

Say it many times loudly. To be fair, only the far left Howard Dean type kooks believe that Bush knew about 9/11 beforehand. It pretty much takes the issue off the table for the democrats though. It's hard to blame Bush for something he should have known, when Kerry did know and did nothing.

I think the democrats must be starting to get buyers remorse. Kerry is sinking fast. When the polling is looking bad for Kerry, it is not reported on ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN.

I heard the latest Bush "attack" ad that has the Kerry voice clip about the Iraq war funding - "I voted for it before I voted against it". LOL.

If Kerry stays in freefall, Hillary will be drafted to the ticket.

Keith.
 
Anyone from any side of the aisle who claims that a member of the "other side"--one of our own representatives--knew about 9/11 beforehand and let it happen is two things: more stupid and short-sighted than a retarded carrot with brain damage, and being disrespectful to the victims of 9/11.

Yes, I'm sure many people knew some things they should have paid more attention to. And someone fell asleep at the switch. But to say that someone knew that four planes were going to be guided into buildings, and let it happen just shows how stupid some people will allow themselves to be in order to go along with a far-right or far-left ideology when convenient.

And don't kid yourself about the "liberal media." We've got more far-right media outlets in this country than far-left. One can find more examples of blantantly right-wing news reporting than left-wing. But somehow, the GOP spin machine and the conservative movement have convinced some Americans that the media is a liberal propaganda machine. Pathetic.
 
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Originally posted by Asinine:
Anyone from any side of the aisle who claims that a member of the "other side"--one of our own representatives--knew about 9/11 beforehand and let it happen is two things: more stupid and short-sighted than a retarded carrot with brain damage, and being disrespectful to the victims of 9/11.

Yes, I'm sure many people knew some things they should have paid more attention to. And someone fell asleep at the switch. But to say that someone knew that four planes were going to be guided into buildings, and let it happen just shows how stupid some people will allow themselves to be in order to go along with a far-right or far-left ideology when convenient.

And don't kid yourself about the "liberal media." We've got more far-right media outlets in this country than far-left. One can find more examples of blantantly right-wing news reporting than left-wing. But somehow, the GOP spin machine and the conservative movement have convinced some Americans that the media is a liberal propaganda machine. Pathetic.


In addition to what you said about people that post garbage, they show a great contempt for anybody they expect to believe it. As much as I always hate being lied to, I hate it even more when it is a lie I would have to be dumb to believe. A good example of that is your comment on the general bias of the news media.

For anybody that sees the mainstream news media having a right wing bias, let me know. I can make you a great deal on this highly profitable bridge.
 
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Originally posted by Asinine:
But somehow, the GOP spin machine and the conservative movement have convinced some Americans that the media is a liberal propaganda machine. Pathetic.

You just lost all credibility on that one. Even the media themselves are saying they are liberal biased. Still, you don't see it.

ABC News acknowledges widespread liberal bias in the news media


This site is good training, you can use your new skills to spot conservative bias too:

Liberal Media Bias


Keith.
 
Lost all credibility, huh? Limbaugh and Savage would be so proud of you. Disagree? Then the other guy has no "credibility."

I've had this conversation with someone else already. A journalist saying that most people in the media are liberal cannot be construed as evidence that the media is a liberal outlet. It is convenient for right-wingers to use this as "evidence" that you can't believe anything on t.v. or radio unless it's Fox News or Limbaugh, et al.
 
The only liberal bias in media is on the evening news of the big 3 networks. Fox is completely conservatively slanted. Talk radio is completely conservatively slanted. The talking head shows on the big 3, CNN, and MSNBC are either balanced (one conservative and one liberal) or somewhat conservatively slanted. This myth of a liberal media is only perpetuated because of the CONSERVATIVE bias so prevalent in media today.
 
Ahhhhhhhh!!!!! If only we had known Logan and other airports had problems!!! If only John Kerry had told us!!!! IT'S ALL HIS FAULT FOR NOT TELLING US ABOUT THE THREAT, AND NOT FIXING IT!!!!!!!! Ahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

1. As was accurately noted earlier, WorldNetDaily IS A CONSERVATIVE RAG. Look at their home page -- it exclusively features an entire stable of conservative writers, editorials, and stories. Anyone who believes this story is a balanced, objective attempt to evaluate the matter is a fool.

2. Last time I checked, SENATORS HAVE NO JURISDICTION OVER AVIATION SECURITY. That's the FAA's charter.

3. IF ONLY KERRY HAD TOLD US OF THE DANGER!!! AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Actually, any non-dumb*ss who reads the newspaper was quite familiar with airport security deficiencies across the country, including Logan, all of which fall under the jurisdiction of the FAA.

Sorry, I don't have a conservative attack rag to refer to, so I'll have to settle for this Wall Street Journal article from 9/12/01:

"That fall, the Boston Globe reported that FAA special agents found at least 136 security violations at Logan from 1997 through 1999. As a result, the FAA reportedly fined major airlines and Massport $178,000."
"Government agencies have long warned about lax U.S. airport security screening, something that frequent fliers see on a regular basis."
"...but authorities have long raised alarms about security, with little action taken to tighten airport procedures."
"Just last year (2000), in an almost prophetic warning, the General Accounting Office said airport security hadn't improved, and in many cases had worsened."
"The Federal Aviation Administration was already moving to tighten screening standards; in fact, new rules were supposed to be issued next week (in Sept. 2001)."
"The GAO, the investigative arm of Congress, identified two important causes for security lapses at checkpoints: rapid turnover of screening personnel and inadequate attention to human factors. From May 1998 through April 1999, turnover more than doubled on average among screeners at 19 large U.S. airports; five airports (Atlanta, BOST0N, Chicago, Houston and St. Louis) had annual turnover of more than 200%."
"The FAA has moved to address GAO-identified shortcomings, the GAO said, but slowly. For instance, the FAA last year (2000) was still planning to establish performance standards that screening companies would have to meet to earn and retain certification, an action the GAO recommended in 1987."
"In 1999, the FAA became so concerned about lax security at the nation's major airports that it threatened to force the airlines to post guards at every airplane. At the time, the FAA said that federal agents were able to sneak 46 times through security doors at four major airports and then walk around on the tarmac. They also boarded 51 planes unchallenged. In response, the FAA ordered increased security at 70 of the largest airports and announced that it would run exercises to test for holes in security....In the following months, FAA officials said significant improvements were made at all of the airports, but at the same time, they stressed that vigilance on the part of every employee was necessary if security was to work."

*$%@&* KERRY!! IF ONLY HE HAD TOLD US OF THE DEFICIENCIES (that had already been widely reported in the newspapers)!!! IF ONLY HE HAD STOPPED IT (by commandeering the FAA, a federal agency)!!! IF ONLY HE HAD MADE CHANGES PRIOR TO 9/11 (which had already been widely studied and partially implemented by the FAA by then)!!!! IT'S ALL KERRY'S FAULT!!!!
http://www.dowjones.com/Pulitzer/pulitzer_2002/staff_911/staff4.html

[ March 19, 2004, 06:07 PM: Message edited by: TC ]
 
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