Kendall GT-1 vs Motorcraft.

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I just went to the PCS website and put two cases in the cart and my zip code and it would cost $30 to ship making the price of two cases almost $100. Not sure that I would see enough of a benefit of using the Kendall vs just getting the Motorcraft blend locally to justify the price of the Kendall with the shipping.

I did write to Conoco/phillips to see if there was any place in my area that I could purchase Kendall through. I will see what their response is.

Wayne
 
Originally Posted By: wtd
My Mustang uses 5W-20. So is it the consensus that Kendall semi-synthetic blend is better than the Motorcraft blend and that the Kendall and Motorcraft full synthetic are pretty much the same thing?

I'm leaning towards going with the blend. I've read about some instances of the Ford 5.0 having some engine ticking issues after an oil change and it seems like in most of the cases I have read about, the person had switched over to a full synthetic.

badtlc,
I see in your signature that you run the Kendall 5W-20 blend in your Ford Escape. What were your reasons for using that oil over anything else? How is it performing in your car and have you done oil analysis on it yet? Thanks for all of the responses.

Wayne


The full synthetics are just as different as the blends. Kendall has a more stout additive package.
 
Originally Posted By: wtd
I just went to the PCS website and put two cases in the cart and my zip code and it would cost $30 to ship making the price of two cases almost $100. Not sure that I would see enough of a benefit of using the Kendall vs just getting the Motorcraft blend locally to justify the price of the Kendall with the shipping.

I did write to Conoco/phillips to see if there was any place in my area that I could purchase Kendall through. I will see what their response is.

Wayne


Hey Wayne...if you live near a pilot/flying j or Loves truckstop, many of those (most) carry kendall semi syn for $3.99/qt (typically). Only thing is it seems like it's mostly 30 grade, although I sometimes see 20 grade.

Just throwing it out there...
 
Originally Posted By: wtd
I just went to the PCS website and put two cases in the cart and my zip code and it would cost $30 to ship making the price of two cases almost $100. Not sure that I would see enough of a benefit of using the Kendall vs just getting the Motorcraft blend locally to justify the price of the Kendall with the shipping.

I did write to Conoco/phillips to see if there was any place in my area that I could purchase Kendall through. I will see what their response is.

Wayne


Kendall is a better oil than the MTC stuff IMO. If you can beat the price locally buying MTC though use that and don't sweat it. Hard to imagine you can do better on the MTC synthetic anyway but probably can on the blend( Wal-Mart I imagine )...

Kendall Blend: $34.29 X 2 = $68.58 + $30 Ship = $98.58 / 24 = $4.10 p/qt

Kendall Synthetic: $46.62 X 2 = $93.24 + $30 Ship = $123.24 / 24 = $5.13 p/qt
 
Originally Posted By: wtd


badtlc,
I see in your signature that you run the Kendall 5W-20 blend in your Ford Escape. What were your reasons for using that oil over anything else? How is it performing in your car and have you done oil analysis on it yet? Thanks for all of the responses.

Wayne


My next door mechanic uses it for their $20 oil change. I can't beat that price since they also use Motorcraft filters.
 
I'm not sure where the nearest Love's truck stop is. I know I've seen them out by the interstate but I can't remember where.

The cheapest I've found the Motorcraft full synthetic is from the dealer at $7.86 a quart which is too expensive for what it is. O'reillys can get it for $7.99 a quart. The MC blend is $17+ a jug at Walmart so that is relatively cheap.

Today I was in Orscheln farm store and they had Trop Artic blend for $3.59 a quart and it's a Conoco/Phillips oil but I don't know anything about it since hardly anyone around here carries it.

Wayne
 
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Orscheln's regularly sells tropartic for less than $2 per quart.


If they do, that is what I will be using.

Wayne
 
Originally Posted By: wtd
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Orscheln's regularly sells tropartic for less than $2 per quart.


If they do, that is what I will be using.

Wayne


Keep an eye on the sales board on this forum. Orscheln's sales are almost always posted there. This last year they had a sale on Trop Artic for $1.99/qt and then a month or so later sold it for $1.79/qt. It is a very good oil.
 
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Originally Posted By: wtd
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Orscheln's regularly sells tropartic for less than $2 per quart.


If they do, that is what I will be using.

Wayne


Keep an eye on the sales board on this forum. Orscheln's sales are almost always posted there. This last year they had a sale on Trop Artic for $1.99/qt and then a month or so later sold it for $1.79/qt. It is a very good oil.


I will keep my eye out for it. I get their sales ad in the mail also so I'll make sure to look in it regularly to see if it's on sale.

Wayne
 
Originally Posted By: dave1251
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Kendall and Motorcraft are not similar oils.


Yes they are sorry. Even Phillips lubricants will tell you.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/Kendall.htm

http://www.pqiamerica.com/January2012A/January2012R2/motorcraft.htm

Motorcraft is a very tad thicker and does not 100ppm of Titanium and little less Magnesium.

It does not make fiscal sense for Phillips to roll out very different formulations with its lineup and relatively small market share.




The same CP you claimed was using Grp I oil ?
 
Originally Posted By: dave1251
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Kendall and Motorcraft are not similar oils.


Yes they are sorry. Even Phillips lubricants will tell you.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/Kendall.htm

http://www.pqiamerica.com/January2012A/January2012R2/motorcraft.htm

Motorcraft is a very tad thicker and does not 100ppm of Titanium and little less Magnesium.

It does not make fiscal sense for Phillips to roll out very different formulations with its lineup and relatively small market share.


So you are saying they are similar because they carry the same API rating and made by the same company? OK, then they are similar and all oils are similar to each other.
 
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Originally Posted By: badtlc
Originally Posted By: dave1251
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Kendall and Motorcraft are not similar oils.


Yes they are sorry. Even Phillips lubricants will tell you.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/Kendall.htm

http://www.pqiamerica.com/January2012A/January2012R2/motorcraft.htm

Motorcraft is a very tad thicker and does not 100ppm of Titanium and little less Magnesium.

It does not make fiscal sense for Phillips to roll out very different formulations with its lineup and relatively small market share.


So you are saying they are similar because they carry the same API rating and made by the same company? OK, then they are similar and all oils are similar to each other.


No additive contents, amounts, formulation, and base oils.
 
Originally Posted By: skellyman
Originally Posted By: dave1251
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Kendall and Motorcraft are not similar oils.


Yes they are sorry. Even Phillips lubricants will tell you.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/Kendall.htm

http://www.pqiamerica.com/January2012A/January2012R2/motorcraft.htm

Motorcraft is a very tad thicker and does not 100ppm of Titanium and little less Magnesium.

It does not make fiscal sense for Phillips to roll out very different formulations with its lineup and relatively small market share.




The same CP you claimed was using Grp I oil ?


They are and if reading is your strong suit I can forward a copy of the email.
 
The Motorcraft was SM rated and the Kendall was SN rated. As I recall SN rated oils need to meet higher standards than SM rated oils. Maybe the SN rated Motorcraft oil is more similar to the Kendall SN rated oil
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Whimsey
 
Originally Posted By: skellyman
Great !! Lets see what you have.
Send it to my inbox here.


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Good afternoon,

I have the following question about one of your products MSDS Trop Artic. It states it has 10 to 30% of the following

Distillates, petroleum, solvent refined heavy paraffinic.

Is this group I base oil.

Thank you.

David
RSC:Lubricants


David,



The description below would be for a Group I base oil.



Thanks,



Product Specialist

Hope you can read because this is the 5 or 6th time you have tried to contradict, information that I have posted on here.

I would of thought you would have learned by now.
 
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