I don't want to start a argument or start a war but I need to ask.If you have a brand new car and you want to use a "quality"synthetic would it pay to start using Amsoil or any other high quality synthetic.You plan on keeping the car 10+ years and do most highway miles.Is Amsoil worth the extra money?I'm sure it's a great oil.Thanks Joe
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Originally Posted By: Dually
If you have a brand new car and you want to use a "quality"synthetic would it pay to start using Amsoil or any other high quality synthetic.
but let me try anyway...
The way to get your money's worth out of "quality" synthetic oil is to run extended OCI. But if you have a brand new car, you're limited by the maximum OCI that the car manufacturer allows, which is as little as 5K miles in some cases.
Secondly, whatever oil you choose must officially meet the specifications listed in your car's owner manual, synthetic or not. Otherwise, you're potentially putting your brand new vehicle's warranty in jeopardy.
If you have a brand new car and you want to use a "quality"synthetic would it pay to start using Amsoil or any other high quality synthetic.
The way to get your money's worth out of "quality" synthetic oil is to run extended OCI. But if you have a brand new car, you're limited by the maximum OCI that the car manufacturer allows, which is as little as 5K miles in some cases.
Secondly, whatever oil you choose must officially meet the specifications listed in your car's owner manual, synthetic or not. Otherwise, you're potentially putting your brand new vehicle's warranty in jeopardy.
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Dually
If you have a brand new car and you want to use a "quality"synthetic would it pay to start using Amsoil or any other high quality synthetic.
but let me try anyway...
The way to get your money's worth out of "quality" synthetic oil is to run extended OCI. But if you have a brand new car, you're limited by the maximum OCI that the car manufacturer allows, which is as little as 5K miles in some cases.
Secondly, whatever oil you choose must officially meet the specifications listed in your car's owner manual, synthetic or not. Otherwise, you're potentially putting your brand new vehicle's warranty in jeopardy.
Agreed. In something brand new I would probably just run whatever the factory fill was to be safe with the warranty mumbo jumbo.
As far as Amsoil goes I think it's a good oil. I've had it in my civic and pickup for a total of 40,000+ miles now and no problems. I'm going to do a UOA on this batch once I hit 10k and switch to PP for 10k in the civic and do a UOA on that. I'll save the writeup and post it up but it may not be for a while!
Originally Posted By: Dually
If you have a brand new car and you want to use a "quality"synthetic would it pay to start using Amsoil or any other high quality synthetic.
The way to get your money's worth out of "quality" synthetic oil is to run extended OCI. But if you have a brand new car, you're limited by the maximum OCI that the car manufacturer allows, which is as little as 5K miles in some cases.
Secondly, whatever oil you choose must officially meet the specifications listed in your car's owner manual, synthetic or not. Otherwise, you're potentially putting your brand new vehicle's warranty in jeopardy.
Agreed. In something brand new I would probably just run whatever the factory fill was to be safe with the warranty mumbo jumbo.
As far as Amsoil goes I think it's a good oil. I've had it in my civic and pickup for a total of 40,000+ miles now and no problems. I'm going to do a UOA on this batch once I hit 10k and switch to PP for 10k in the civic and do a UOA on that. I'll save the writeup and post it up but it may not be for a while!
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If I had a brand new car I'd be running whatever $20-26 synthetic Walmart had that meets my cars specs. No need IMO for boutique unicorn tears oil.
if you can afford it, do what makes you feel good. I think that Mobil 1 EP is just as good and easily accessible. Dont know about the Castrol though, as ive never used it.
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Only fluids I'll pay big bucks for is transmission fluid and rear differential oil.
Mobil 1 EP according to some white papers, is quite inferior to Amsoil and Pennzoil. Whether or not it translates to the typical real world user, i dont know. Imo, it does, but that is just me. The few vehicles that i have ran Amsoil signature series oil in, run beautifully, quiet, smooth. Amsoil IS The most robust fully synthetic oil, that is a fact. Do what you want. PENNZOIL platinum or ultra would be my second choice.
Originally Posted By: Dually
If you have a brand new car and you want to use a "quality"synthetic would it pay to start using Amsoil or any other high quality synthetic.
Depends on the brand new car....if we are talking about a Ferrari then yes if we are talking about my Accent then no. A decent quality synthetic like Pennzoil Platinum, Valvoline syn, mobil1, Castrol Syntec would be sufficient for me without paying the extra money for the boutique oils that would be overkill for my vehicles.
Originally Posted By: Dually
You plan on keeping the car 10+ years and do most highway miles.Is Amsoil worth the extra money?I'm sure it's a great oil.Thanks Joe
Good routine maintenance with any quality oil will take care of your car just as good as Amzoil unless you are planning on doing extreme OCI's.
If you have a brand new car and you want to use a "quality"synthetic would it pay to start using Amsoil or any other high quality synthetic.
Depends on the brand new car....if we are talking about a Ferrari then yes if we are talking about my Accent then no. A decent quality synthetic like Pennzoil Platinum, Valvoline syn, mobil1, Castrol Syntec would be sufficient for me without paying the extra money for the boutique oils that would be overkill for my vehicles.
Originally Posted By: Dually
You plan on keeping the car 10+ years and do most highway miles.Is Amsoil worth the extra money?I'm sure it's a great oil.Thanks Joe
Good routine maintenance with any quality oil will take care of your car just as good as Amzoil unless you are planning on doing extreme OCI's.
Except synthetic oils can deliver a fuel economy savings that can translate to even a small savings over conventional oil for the DIY'er...
Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
Except synthetic oils can deliver a fuel economy savings that can translate to even a small savings over conventional oil for the DIY'er...
Define 'small'.
Except synthetic oils can deliver a fuel economy savings that can translate to even a small savings over conventional oil for the DIY'er...
Define 'small'.
Originally Posted By: tig1
Yes. Synthetic oils are well worth the very little cost difference. Amsoil, M1, PP are top tier oils and are about equal in performance.
And Royal Purple, Castrol Edge...
Yes. Synthetic oils are well worth the very little cost difference. Amsoil, M1, PP are top tier oils and are about equal in performance.
And Royal Purple, Castrol Edge...
Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
Except synthetic oils can deliver a fuel economy savings that can translate to even a small savings over conventional oil for the DIY'er...
It's not intuitive but I got some of the best gas mileage ever out of my Camry running Havoline 5W-20.
It could have been the summer gasoline formulation or just a placebo effect.
Or maybe Chevron borrowed some liquid ball bearings from Pennzoil.
Except synthetic oils can deliver a fuel economy savings that can translate to even a small savings over conventional oil for the DIY'er...
It's not intuitive but I got some of the best gas mileage ever out of my Camry running Havoline 5W-20.
It could have been the summer gasoline formulation or just a placebo effect.
Or maybe Chevron borrowed some liquid ball bearings from Pennzoil.
Originally Posted By: zpinch
Mobil 1 EP according to some white papers, is quite inferior to Amsoil and Pennzoil. Whether or not it translates to the typical real world user, i dont know. Imo, it does, but that is just me. The few vehicles that i have ran Amsoil signature series oil in, run beautifully, quiet, smooth. Amsoil IS The most robust fully synthetic oil, that is a fact. Do what you want. PENNZOIL platinum or ultra would be my second choice.
What white papers are you referring?
Mobil 1 EP according to some white papers, is quite inferior to Amsoil and Pennzoil. Whether or not it translates to the typical real world user, i dont know. Imo, it does, but that is just me. The few vehicles that i have ran Amsoil signature series oil in, run beautifully, quiet, smooth. Amsoil IS The most robust fully synthetic oil, that is a fact. Do what you want. PENNZOIL platinum or ultra would be my second choice.
What white papers are you referring?
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Dually
If you have a brand new car and you want to use a "quality"synthetic would it pay to start using Amsoil or any other high quality synthetic.
but let me try anyway...
The way to get your money's worth out of "quality" synthetic oil is to run extended OCI. But if you have a brand new car, you're limited by the maximum OCI that the car manufacturer allows, which is as little as 5K miles in some cases.
Secondly, whatever oil you choose must officially meet the specifications listed in your car's owner manual, synthetic or not. Otherwise, you're potentially putting your brand new vehicle's warranty in jeopardy.
I disagree. The way you get your moneys worth is not through extended OCIs necessarily, but by changing your oil regularly and using top quality components to protect and maintain the health of the motor. Peace of mind and a whole lot cheaper than replacing an engine! Just my
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Originally Posted By: Dually
If you have a brand new car and you want to use a "quality"synthetic would it pay to start using Amsoil or any other high quality synthetic.
The way to get your money's worth out of "quality" synthetic oil is to run extended OCI. But if you have a brand new car, you're limited by the maximum OCI that the car manufacturer allows, which is as little as 5K miles in some cases.
Secondly, whatever oil you choose must officially meet the specifications listed in your car's owner manual, synthetic or not. Otherwise, you're potentially putting your brand new vehicle's warranty in jeopardy.
I disagree. The way you get your moneys worth is not through extended OCIs necessarily, but by changing your oil regularly and using top quality components to protect and maintain the health of the motor. Peace of mind and a whole lot cheaper than replacing an engine! Just my
Originally Posted By: jk_636
I disagree. The way you get your moneys worth is not through extended OCIs necessarily, but by changing your oil regularly and using top quality components to protect and maintain the health of the motor.
What does "regularly" mean?
You can be changing mineral oil "regularly" at 5K mile intervals.
You can be changing synthetic oil "regularly" at 10K mile intervals.
Both approaches will protect and maintain the health of the motor. Both will make your engine last longer than you care for it to last.
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That's what it all boils down to at the end of the day. You can't put a price on a good night's sleep.
I disagree. The way you get your moneys worth is not through extended OCIs necessarily, but by changing your oil regularly and using top quality components to protect and maintain the health of the motor.
What does "regularly" mean?
You can be changing mineral oil "regularly" at 5K mile intervals.
You can be changing synthetic oil "regularly" at 10K mile intervals.
Both approaches will protect and maintain the health of the motor. Both will make your engine last longer than you care for it to last.
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Peace of mind
That's what it all boils down to at the end of the day. You can't put a price on a good night's sleep.
I'm not big on amsoil since I change oil every two weeks but I do use pennzoil ultra platinum as I believe ALL synthetics are an improvement over dino.However I do/would use amsoil or redline for my transmission needs without hesitation. For my RX350 Lexus I would consider amsoil but its only driven 10k miles a year so I just use Pennzoil HM @ 5qts, 1 qt Pennzoil Ultra and 1 bottle mos2. I think amsoil's SS series is great but only where larger oil capacitys(5+) are available and the vehicle is on the lower side of mileage where leaks arent a concern. Its not a bad oil or they wouldnt have the loyal following that they do. I was raised a Mobil 1 kid and grew into a SOPUS guy.
Buy a jug of M1 or any syn jug for 25-30$ and change per mfr spec. I would say its not worth the premium to spend more on Amsoil. If you can get Amsoil for not much more sure go for it, but good luck trying to prove its somehow better than the cheapeat dino that meets spec unless you extend the intervals past mfr recommendations. I run M1 EP, M1 AFE Pennz etc and no doubt your engine will last forever. Put your money elsewhere.
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Originally Posted By: zpinch
Mobil 1 EP according to some white papers, is quite inferior to Amsoil and Pennzoil. Whether or not it translates to the typical real world user, i dont know. Imo, it does, but that is just me. The few vehicles that i have ran Amsoil signature series oil in, run beautifully, quiet, smooth. Amsoil IS The most robust fully synthetic oil, that is a fact. Do what you want. PENNZOIL platinum or ultra would be my second choice.
What white papers are you referring?
+1. Sources please.
Originally Posted By: zpinch
Mobil 1 EP according to some white papers, is quite inferior to Amsoil and Pennzoil. Whether or not it translates to the typical real world user, i dont know. Imo, it does, but that is just me. The few vehicles that i have ran Amsoil signature series oil in, run beautifully, quiet, smooth. Amsoil IS The most robust fully synthetic oil, that is a fact. Do what you want. PENNZOIL platinum or ultra would be my second choice.
What white papers are you referring?
+1. Sources please.
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