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Yep new= junk more times than one. I’ve fixed so many new cars in my time as a mechanic man you could not pay me to own one. They could of at least made it look nice.
Jeep Grand Wagoneer
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Looks good, interior is good. But that price for JEEP? Sorry....
I have been a Jeep guy most of my life. That's not a Jeep. Why not just badge it as a Chrysler wagon. I Owned a full size wagon years ago and while it was a mix of parts it drove nice and my Wife loved it. I can't imagine paying out that kind of money for that.
You fixed mostly new cars because that’s what a VAST majority of people own and drive.
You really can't expect it to hold up to a 94 Pontiac Grand Am standards of quality and reliability..
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That might be a good thing. I never considered a Pontiac Grand Am from that era to be a benchmark for quality and reliability.
OVERKILL
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Must have been a while since you owned a GC eh? Like before the SRT's showed up? The Laguna leather has been an option for quite a while now and it's incredible. The interior on the GC's (and other vehicles) really improved dramatically after the FIAT takeover.
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I crossed shopped the AMG 63 SUV and the Grand Cherokee SRT (they are both based on the same platform at this point still) and I ended up in another GC. The MB had some neat features, like the backup camera flipping out so it wasn't always getting covered in road grime, but interior-wise, they are VERY similar with the Jeep not having the funky screen location and a better infotainment system IMHO.
I do believe the X5M and X6M are a bit nicer however, but we don't have a local BMW dealership, so getting things serviced is a monumental PITA if you need the dealer, which I discovered with my M5.
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It's a RAM 1500 basically, lol. That's what it is based on. More similar to an old school Expedition when it was based on the F-150 in terms of platform alignment. That's not a bad thing, the DT trucks are incredible, so it's a very solid foundation to put a big SUV on.
That horse left the barn a long time ago. My JGC Summit is supremely comfortable, yet I slogged through a muddy trail with it a couple of days ago without breaking a sweat.
Best of both worlds imo.The Hemi just makes it all work that much better.
I have heated leather seats in my 99 but it's a beast offroad. This "Wagoneer" Is a rich soccer mom's dream. Nothing i'd want to take offroad.
2010 was the last GC I owned. It was an Overland. I liked it, but the trim was as described and it had a host of electrical issues, including one where the transfer case would shift into neutral after the car shut off. I only noticed it when taking a phone call in the car for a few minutes after shutdown. Called the local dealer who had me bring it in the next day....said they never heard of that problem. The recall came out shortly after
I’ve heard they got better. Funny that the FIAT takeover improved things. I’ve never been in an SRT, they do look good tho.
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I agree with you.
In saying that, the profit margin is in this exact type of vehicle.
Jeep name for marketing
Near Ultimate luxury with Jeep capable powertrain - for the soccer dad/mom/all others.
Again, best of both worlds.
Can't wait to get them into our dealership.
We've had to delay 4 - 5 TRX orders due to limited availability - at $140,000 CDN out the door.
The name carries prestige and so does the price, they will sell especially since it's a new luxury SUV and not just a Tahoe with a different trim level. I'm not the biggest fan of it but I know people who would buy it to stand out.
OVERKILL
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2010 was the last GC I owned. It was an Overland. I liked it, but the trim was as described and it had a host of electrical issues, including one where the transfer case would shift into neutral after the car shut off. I only noticed it when taking a phone call in the car for a few minutes after shutdown. Called the local dealer who had me bring it in the next day....said they never heard of that problem. The recall came out shortly after
I’ve heard they got better. Funny that the FIAT takeover improved things. I’ve never been in an SRT, they do look good tho.
Makes sense, that's pre-FIAT. We had an '06 Charger and the difference between it and the post-FIAT interiors was huge.
But I wonder if it carries prestige in that price range? A number of friends and folks I know who have RR, MB, X5/7, Q whatevers also have Wranglers or a Renegade for their kids but don't currently own GC's, but may have had them in the past. These folks also know little about the vehicles beyond what they need... Will they see this as an attempt by the company that makes their kids cars??
Marketing is a funny area, especially high end retail. If they get into the heavy discount situation, that could hurt them...or sell enough. Time will tell.
I hope they sell and I can see them taking share from the Tahoe/Yukon/Suburban market.
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Yes, it was funny. Our '97 GC Limited was bulletproof, '98 Wrangler was troublesome early on but aged very well, '01 GC was also OK, The '05 GC Limited had continual drivetrain issues and the '10 GC Overland was as described. Glad to hear FIAT is doing well with them. Not surprised on the interior materials and finish, the Europeans have generally been best at that.
Seems like a lot of cars, but we kept one around for the Nanny and visiting In Laws....the GC's were perfect in that role.
