My employer closed the local office, made everyone WFH, and then later new mgmt required everyone to move time zones. Yes it obviously within mgmt discretion but it does mean that it's not tone deaf.either when the role does not benefit from an office environment.
It never gets any easier letting someone go
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Well, if management told people to move to different time zones while WFH, only to ask them to move back to the original time zone so they could work onsite.....that's total BS on the company's part.
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Another thread that has unfortunately turned into a other wfh bash.
And now the company has lost a great worker because the hard working knowledgeable employee has left for greener pastures. Really no different than if any of us finds a new job for better benefits.
We lost two awesome workers because our CEO tried to mandate going back into the office, but they made the wise decision that watching their autistic child is worth more than keeping their job. So they left and were immediately picked up by a better paying wfh job.
However, on the flip side I do notice there's a big difference in team cohesion between the wfh folks and the in-office folks. We leave it up to the department heads to figure who they want in and who can work remote. It's a good system so far and has cut our office rent down by 90%.
And now the company has lost a great worker because the hard working knowledgeable employee has left for greener pastures. Really no different than if any of us finds a new job for better benefits.
We lost two awesome workers because our CEO tried to mandate going back into the office, but they made the wise decision that watching their autistic child is worth more than keeping their job. So they left and were immediately picked up by a better paying wfh job.
However, on the flip side I do notice there's a big difference in team cohesion between the wfh folks and the in-office folks. We leave it up to the department heads to figure who they want in and who can work remote. It's a good system so far and has cut our office rent down by 90%.
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When I was in the Air Force I could NOT tell my squadron commander….. or wing commander what I wanted or not want to do.
Even in a criminal organization like an outlaw motorcycle cycle gang there will be rank and file chain of command.
You don’t follow the rules you’re out.
Depends on the employee. If there good and do there work from home then who cares. If not it’s a management issue.
If there not doing there work they likely weren’t doing much in the office either. It’s a management fallacy. I watched lots of people in office go to meeting after meeting and accomplish nothing.
If there not doing there work they likely weren’t doing much in the office either. It’s a management fallacy. I watched lots of people in office go to meeting after meeting and accomplish nothing.
I am leaving my current position and moving to a WFH position with FTO within my company next month.
The job involves travel 2-3 days a month to perform audits and this department has never been at Corporate HQ.
Couldn't be more excited.
The job involves travel 2-3 days a month to perform audits and this department has never been at Corporate HQ.
Couldn't be more excited.
And then another CEO comes along…
Bottom line is employers have zero loyalty to you so always keep your eyes and options open. The agreement you thought you had yesterday can and often will be dropped overnight by your employer, and even if it is in writing it is rarely worth your time, money, and aggravation to fight back. Who wants to continue working for a place that has changed the rules like that? I worked remotely for many years long before it was common, and I always had the problem that the boss couldn't actually see me sweating away. No matter what numbers I hit the boss always worried I was slacking. One time he called me towards the end of a long day and dismissively asked what I had been doing. I gave him an earful because at that point my day was going on 14 hours. He could never quite believe I was actually working as hard as I was.
Keeping your tools?
All three sets, yes. Hadn't considered selling them, why?
MANY companies are violating the employees contract and firing employees for this.
Problem is this. Back in COVID, many jobs were offered as remote. They were fully remote. No need to work in the office. No need to be near the office. No need to live in or near the city. Millions of these workers moved out of the cities, to the suburbs for a lower cost of living, and a better place to raise a family.
Now 5 years later, they are renigging on these contracts, changing the terms, and requiring people to work in a local office. Even though they live thousands of miles away and their offer never required in person working at a local office.
I'm not saying that's the case in the original post, but I have heard of this happening all over the country to remote workers.
A friend of mine has an adult son with a high engineering degree from Carnegie Mellon. His son has been working for NASA in Ohio, and had a house in Ohio. That son has a friend in Florida that provided him housing during vacations there, and he met a woman there and dated her. When given the opertunity to WFH, he sold his Ohio home and bought an apartment in Florida near his girlfriend. Then he was told he had to move back to Ohio or he was out. Thats the last I heard about it.
Starting a business is really tough as if you're too early to a market with a product it might not make it, too late then there might be too much competition.
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I cringe every time I see a startup cafe or even a coffee shop here. Even fast food companies have not survived in these small towns … What does? Sonic - people still like to drive up and order from the screen …
Life is hard, and there are no guarantees. It always has been.
If you want to start a business, do your due diligence. Identify a product or service you think might be in demand, sink your lifesavings into starting the business, work Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar harder than any employer could ever legally make you work, and maybe, just maybe, you'll succeed.
Very company specific. I can see points on all sides, and each position & company has different needs, and the ripple effects continue to ripple outward of figuring WFH out. Moving hours from work during WFH seemed unwise to me though; I can understand if someone did that because of a change in family needs, but to do so under the belief that this is the new normal and it'd never change... seems short sighted.
I work for a "global" company and often will have my laptop on at night, just in case my counterparts reach out at their 7pm start times. Yeah I could wait until the follow day... but maybe I'll make their day better? a few times I've had an impromptu call to boot. Hybrid works pretty good for me (and my home office might be better set up than work).
I work for a "global" company and often will have my laptop on at night, just in case my counterparts reach out at their 7pm start times. Yeah I could wait until the follow day... but maybe I'll make their day better? a few times I've had an impromptu call to boot. Hybrid works pretty good for me (and my home office might be better set up than work).
I was just curious if they were company tools or if they were yours.
I would keep them, in case you move back , or something goes awry with your new position.
Good Luck, it sounds great.
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