It never gets any easier letting someone go

[Brons2]

Even when they deserve it, it's hard.

This one definitely didn't deserve it, great worker, very knowledgeable.

But senior management decreed no more remote employees, come heck or high water.

Hopefully we don't get heck from it in the form of, some broken system nobody knows how to fix.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Even when they deserve it, it's hard.

This one definitely didn't deserve it, great worker, very knowledgeable.

But senior management decreed no more remote employees, come heck or high water.

Hopefully we don't get heck from it in the form of, some broken system nobody knows how to fix.

Ya. I had this happen when our new federal regulator got wind of an lawsuit from a former employee. The new regime has cost my household around $175k and the tab is increasing.

 

[Kira]

Are you referring to an employee who quit or was fired due to his not wanting to return to the office?

 

[cptbarkey]

Did they get severance?

 

[fdcg27]

Well, if the company mandated a return to office and this guy decided not to do so then it is on him.
Shame to have to discharge someone who is productive and valuable, but asking folks to actually come to work doesn't seem too outrageous.
The guy made a choice and the employer called his bluff.

 

[4wd]

Whatever this is - we are definitely heading to a mix of domestic direct hires, many services that can be remote going overseas - but what has surprised me is how easy it has been to scoop up consultants - many of them who took retirement between 55-60. These have become my “A Team” …

 

[4wd]

Well, if the company mandated a return to office and this guy decided not to do so then it is on him.
Shame to have to discharge someone who is productive and valuable, but asking folks to actually come to work doesn't seem too outrageous.
The guy made a choice and the employer called his bluff.

Yep, companies did not build billion dollar campuses to have folks do whatever they want to. Take it or leave it - I can’t - but some in my family do WFH …

 

[fdcg27]

Yep, companies did not build billion dollar campuses to have folks do whatever they want to. Take it or leave it - I can’t - but some in my family do WFH …

As a minor league boss, I could WFH as I pleased.
I can attest that the amount of W was very low FH.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Well, if the company mandated a return to office and this guy decided not to do so then it is on him.
Shame to have to discharge someone who is productive and valuable, but asking folks to actually come to work doesn't seem too outrageous.
The guy made a choice and the employer called his bluff.

Context is important. Imagine CEO tells you it's okay to move because for the future working from home will be the norm. You sell your house and move from California. 18 months later the new CEO says everyone has to come back to California.

 

[Dave Hess]

No company should BEG any employee to return to office.

Don’t follow the rules ?
Bye bye you’re fired !!!!

I fired about 14 employees over the years.
You follow the rules or get fired. Very simple concept.

 

[fdcg27]

Context is important. Imagine CEO tells you it's okay to move because for the future working from home will be the norm. You sell your house and move from California. 18 months later the new CEO says everyone has to come back to California.

Sure, but if you're an at-will employee, as most are you don't have much recourse.
Best course of action might be to find a pied a terre close to the job to live in while you search for another position.

 

[4wd]

As a minor league boss, I could WFH as I pleased.
I can attest that the amount of W was very low FH.

Yep, lots of companies had IT install software to “monitor work”and it was mixed - so like always the honest take the hit …
But perhaps that’s what you want the next gen to be around !