ISIS burns Jordanian pilot alive

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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
History is doomed to repeat itself. America (and others) ignored Nazi Germany the exact same way.

This WILL come to us, here in this country. Then folks will feel quite different...


Don't get me wrong, I'm DoD and working the most revolutionary weapon of our generation - to protect and defend Americans.

But when they show on our doorstep, then we may consider shedding American blood. This is a Muslim world issue and our hands tied war fighting approach is not suitable to engage. All it does is create massive debt and lost American life for no profit or added security to the common American.

We've paid too much in dollars and life to play police and solve problems where the people don't care, don't want anything better, and aren't mad enough to fight for themselves. And all it profits is a select few.

Originally Posted By: Al
I say we send a million chipper-shredders to the so-called good Muslims and let them stuff these vermin alive in them.

This will end when Muslims clean up their own poop (as mentioned). We have caused the blood of many good soldiers to spill in that god forsaken part of the world. If they want to kill themselves...as they have for centuries...so be it. I could care less.

The only thing I fear is that they will manage to set Iraq's oil wells on fire. It will be impossible to put them out. They have too much pressure.


Well said. Agree 100%
 
Originally Posted By: Dallas69
These cowards are nothing more than roving gangs of thugs
They will never be here
They are not an army
They can only kill a few unlucky souls that they capture
The locals need to grow a set and stand up to them
If not then they get this and go back praying to [censored]


If they are not stamped out now and are allowed to fester and grow, they WILL take down Syria. And then they will take down large parts of Iraq, and on and on to the next country until someone stops them. On the whole they are a minor threat to the US mainland now but that will change with time.

I REALLY hope that the Jordanian king follows through on his threat to wipe out ISIS. I would like to see a full scale Jordanian invasion in the near future.
 
Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Africa doesn't count, no oil, no one cares.


Libya and Nigeria are in Africa; Plenty of oil in those places.


Meh, not the same.
 
Originally Posted By: bubbatime


I REALLY hope that the Jordanian king follows through on his threat to wipe out ISIS. I would like to see a full scale Jordanian invasion in the near future.


I agree with that.
 
Originally Posted By: LoneRanger
True grit

American from Wisconsin fighting ISIS alongside Kurds



Interesting. Not meaning to go into a religious post, but rather tell a story... I know someone who is in the Army who has LOVED being over in Afghanistan. He had served multiple tours. His mother was proudest of him not for defeating OBL or threats to this country, but rather because she thought in earnest that it would be an opportunity to witness to the Afghan people. He never said anything of the sort.

Again, not a religious argument, but she is free to think what she wants, and I suspect that this fellow feels similarly. Now, with the lady above, I cant say that the United States' Federal Army is the appropriate tool to her end, but she can feel and be led as she wishes, and this guy can too. From what I know, so long as it is not a militia intent on overthrowing the United States Government of denouncing the Constitution, Americans can indeed be members of militias in foreign lands.

Im not sure that this situation does anything for winning "hearts and minds" in the Muslim world, but does anyone care? I wonder if such situations are used as propaganda against us.
 
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These cowards are nothing more than roving gangs of thugs

no they are not cowards. when less than a handful of them did what they did in Paris, when they took over the taj mahal palace hotel in india in 2008, when they flew the planes into the wtc in 2001, when they are willing to fight and die that is not cowardice. I would agree they have a thug mentality, they are not organized and disciplined like the Nazi regime or the Saddam's Baath party was but when you take over an area larger than one side of a town you are no longer a roving gang.

They will never be here
To qualify as be here on U.S. soil, do they need to come over in boats flying their flag and coming on to U.S. soil like we did in the D-Day landings in World War 2?
When they flew the planes into the WTC and pentagon, that didn't qualify as being here?

They are not an army
what's the point of this, i should feel better when the tsarnev brothers did the boston marathon bombing then had the city on lock down for a day? they killed and maimed a bunch of people, but hey that's not an army... all is well?

They can only kill a few unlucky souls that they capture
quite narrow minded and short memory, easy for someone to say when it's not them or someone they care about has been impacted.

The locals need to grow a set and stand up to them
correct. the smart thing if you have an ounce of intelligence is learn from history.
The German population should have stood up to the Nazi party,
The Italians should have stood up to Mussolini and the fascists, and is by far the best example of how a few in power can be a problem, the vast majority of Italian people did not want to be in WW2 and were oppressed by the fascists. And the Iraqi people should have stood up to the Baath party, the Cubans to Fidel, on and on.


Originally Posted By: JHZR2

Nor do I think that in any reasonable time frame that the Islamic State would attempt to invade. Its not like the Muslims invading Constantinople and turning cathedrals into Mosques is going to happen by force in the USA in any reasonable time frame... And like the reason why the Japanese would not have invaded the USA, so it would go with ISIS.


dude, what is wrong with you?
they should never doing anything like that in the USA, or anywhere!
do you have a short memory, does 9/11/2001 have any significance to you?
And you need to get a better understanding of historical events, the Japan imperial army and Nazis most certainly would have invaded the U.S. had the war gone in their favor. Germany was trying to develop their own atomic bomb, and Japan was very close it was learned after the war, and I dive the WW2 wrecks off the NC coast every year and see the U.S. ships sank by German Uboats and dive the U-352. To say the U.S. would never have been invaded in WW2 is as naive as believing the Holocaust never happened.

http://www.grunt.com/corps/scuttlebutt/marine-corps-stories/japans-atomic-bomb-we-almost-lost-all/
 
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Originally Posted By: JHZR2

Nor do I think that in any reasonable time frame that the Islamic State would attempt to invade. Its not like the Muslims invading Constantinople and turning cathedrals into Mosques is going to happen by force in the USA in any reasonable time frame... And like the reason why the Japanese would not have invaded the USA, so it would go with ISIS.


dude, what is wrong with you?
they should never doing anything like that in the USA, or anywhere!
do you have a short memory, does 9/11/2001 have any significance to you?
And you need to get a better understanding of historical events, the Japan imperial army and Nazis most certainly would have invaded the U.S. had the war gone in their favor. Germany was trying to develop their own atomic bomb, and Japan was very close it was learned after the war, and I dive the WW2 wrecks off the NC coast every year and see the U.S. ships sank by German Uboats and dive the U-352. To say the U.S. would never have been invaded in WW2 is as naive as believing the Holocaust never happened.

http://www.grunt.com/corps/scuttlebutt/marine-corps-stories/japans-atomic-bomb-we-almost-lost-all/


What's wrong with me? OK, then please state plainly that the chief historian of the United States Army is incorrect in their assessment and that you know better... Where did I say anything about Germany?

Originally Posted By: JHZR2


Not sure I buy the whole "we'd be speaking Japanese and eating seaweed" part of it, i.e. that the Japanese would have ever invaded. Maybe Im wrong, but even per the Office Of The Chief Of Military History, United States Army,

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Japan entered World War II with limited aims and with the intention of fighting a limited war. Its principal objectives were to secure the resources of Southeast Asia and much of China and to establish a "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere" under Japanese hegemony. In 1895 and in 1905 Japan had gained important objectives without completely defeating China or Russia and in 1941 Japan sought to achieve its hegemony over East Asia in similar fashion. The operational strategy the Japanese adopted to start war, however, doomed their hopes of limiting the conflict. Japan believed it necessary to destroy or neutralize American striking power in the Pacific the U.S. Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor and the U.S. Far East Air Force in the Philippines before moving southward and eastward to occupy Malaya, the Netherlands Indies, the Philippines, Wake Island, Guam, the Gilbert Islands, Thailand, and Burma. Once in control of these areas, the Japanese intended to establish a defensive perimeter stretching from the Kurile Islands south through Wake, the Marianas, the Carolines, and the Marshalls and Gilberts to Rabaul on New Britain. From Rabaul the perimeter would extend westward to northwestern New Guinea and would encompass the Indies, Malaya, Thailand, and Burma. Japan thought that the Allies would wear themselves out in fruitless frontal assaults against the perimeter and would ultimately settle for a negotiated peace that would leave it in possession of most of its conquests. (Map 42)
 
Originally Posted By: Trav
Collateral damage happens, that's war.
What do you call the FIRE bombing of London, Dresden, Hamburg, Berlin, Toyko, etc where tens of thousands of civilians died?

Thousand will die, isis must be made to understand we will search every rat hole they are hiding in, drag them out and kill them.
This must to happen sooner or later, its time to [censored] or get off the pot.

Fixed it for you!
And that's exactly what it took to bring both Germany & Japan to their knees and break their wills. Their own arrogance & insanity brought it on. It took FIRE to put an end to it. Unfortunately (for us) we don't take care of terror like we used to and in the end, it may be our undoing. The enemy knows this and teases us for our leaders cowardness and the political fools they are.

I wonder how many have to die for there to be full-scale change? This PC-mentality is Bravo Sierra, not to mention a mental disorder. The US Military is fully capable of the job. We just need leaders with big enough marbles and backbone to turn them loose and do the job they were trained for.

Political decisions Mike-Alpha! They've just made it FUBAR. It should be obvious by now.
 
Originally Posted By: sleddriver
[ The US Military is fully capable of the job. We just need leaders with big enough marbles and backbone to turn them loose and do the job they were trained for.


+1

All we have to do is untie their hands and let them do the job the way it should be done.
 
Originally Posted By: sleddriver
Originally Posted By: Trav
Collateral damage happens, that's war.
What do you call the FIRE bombing of London, Dresden, Hamburg, Berlin, Toyko, etc where tens of thousands of civilians died?

Thousand will die, isis must be made to understand we will search every rat hole they are hiding in, drag them out and kill them.
This must to happen sooner or later, its time to [censored] or get off the pot.

Fixed it for you!
And that's exactly what it took to bring both Germany & Japan to their knees and break their wills. Their own arrogance & insanity brought it on. It took FIRE to put an end to it. Unfortunately (for us) we don't take care of terror like we used to and in the end, it may be our undoing. The enemy knows this and teases us for our leaders cowardness and the political fools they are.

I wonder how many have to die for there to be full-scale change? This PC-mentality is Bravo Sierra, not to mention a mental disorder. The US Military is fully capable of the job. We just need leaders with big enough marbles and backbone to turn them loose and do the job they were trained for.

Political decisions Mike-Alpha! They've just made it FUBAR. It should be obvious by now.


Spot on!
 
Originally Posted By: LoneRanger
Killing ISIS fighters is not genocide, it is defense of human rights and freedom.


Human rights... Ok. Whose freedom???

I still hope the Jordanians start taking care of this mess. It's their fight for their freedoms. Not one drop of Anerican blood.
 
Uhh, what?

Note: I've been saying for YEARS that the only way to deal with radical Islam is to completely wipe them out.
 
Are the so called good Muslims just sheep with no backbone to unite and stop this ?
If they really want the world to see them in a better light this is their chance
I'm starting to think all Muslims are cowards
This is their fight
 
Originally Posted By: Dallas69
Are the so called good Muslims just sheep with no backbone to unite and stop this ?
If they really want the world to see them in a better light this is their chance
I'm starting to think all Muslims are cowards
This is their fight


Well that's why the world's eyes are on Jordan. Even the free paper in the DC metro today shows it on the front page.
 
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