Is this Phenol an ester?
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This just a list of the stuff in the oil that needs to be declared as potentially hazardous. It doesn't represent a list of the active ingredients in the oil (which is why ZDDP) doesn't get flagged up.
I wonder if the Alkyl Phenol is just a residual part of the over based Calcium Phenate detergent used in the oil? I can't think why you would add a neat C14/16/18 Alkyl Phenol to any oil as it would, I imagine, be quite acidic.
I wonder if the Alkyl Phenol is just a residual part of the over based Calcium Phenate detergent used in the oil? I can't think why you would add a neat C14/16/18 Alkyl Phenol to any oil as it would, I imagine, be quite acidic.
Not sure about the above question. I am not into chemistry, but only 3 folks posted, so chemistry is not a strong suit in the USA,,imho at the moment. But we do have expertise in cutting open oil filters.................wow.
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Its not much syntetic in this oil(group 4-5)
Originally Posted By: SonofJoe
I wonder if the Alkyl Phenol is just a residual part of the over based Calcium Phenate detergent used in the oil? I can't think why you would add a neat C14/16/18 Alkyl Phenol to any oil as it would, I imagine, be quite acidic.
A quick search turned up this:
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DIC's alkylphenols have a broad range of applications including use as the raw materials for surfactants and synthetic resins such as phenolic resins, antioxidants for polymers and oils, and polymerization inhibitors for polymerizable monomers.
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Dodecylphenol is used for the manufacturing of lubricant additives and for the preparation of dodecyl ethoxylate.
Start with dodecylphenol, add 2, 4, or 6 carbons present in alkyl groups and Bob's your uncle. It looks like those compounds could be used as anti-oxidants.
Ed
I wonder if the Alkyl Phenol is just a residual part of the over based Calcium Phenate detergent used in the oil? I can't think why you would add a neat C14/16/18 Alkyl Phenol to any oil as it would, I imagine, be quite acidic.
A quick search turned up this:
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DIC's alkylphenols have a broad range of applications including use as the raw materials for surfactants and synthetic resins such as phenolic resins, antioxidants for polymers and oils, and polymerization inhibitors for polymerizable monomers.
And this:
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Dodecylphenol is used for the manufacturing of lubricant additives and for the preparation of dodecyl ethoxylate.
Start with dodecylphenol, add 2, 4, or 6 carbons present in alkyl groups and Bob's your uncle. It looks like those compounds could be used as anti-oxidants.
Ed
Originally Posted By: SonofJoe
I wonder if the Alkyl Phenol is just a residual part of the over based Calcium Phenate detergent used in the oil? I can't think why you would add a neat C14/16/18 Alkyl Phenol to any oil as it would, I imagine, be quite acidic.
I had the same thought - it seems like a lot to be a detergent hang-over residue. Actually, scratch that - I've just looked at a SDS for a typical overbased phenate and the range of alkyl phenol declared there could easily give a notifiable level in finished oil.
I wonder if the Alkyl Phenol is just a residual part of the over based Calcium Phenate detergent used in the oil? I can't think why you would add a neat C14/16/18 Alkyl Phenol to any oil as it would, I imagine, be quite acidic.
I had the same thought - it seems like a lot to be a detergent hang-over residue. Actually, scratch that - I've just looked at a SDS for a typical overbased phenate and the range of alkyl phenol declared there could easily give a notifiable level in finished oil.
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Originally Posted By: SonofJoe
I wonder if the Alkyl Phenol is just a residual part of the over based Calcium Phenate detergent used in the oil? I can't think why you would add a neat C14/16/18 Alkyl Phenol to any oil as it would, I imagine, be quite acidic.
I had the same thought - it seems like a lot to be a detergent hang-over residue. Actually, scratch that - I've just looked at a SDS for a typical overbased phenate and the range of alkyl phenol declared there could easily give a notifiable level in finished oil.
Yeah. I wondered as well if the Decene was just a bit of unreacted monomer in PAO?
Originally Posted By: SonofJoe
I wonder if the Alkyl Phenol is just a residual part of the over based Calcium Phenate detergent used in the oil? I can't think why you would add a neat C14/16/18 Alkyl Phenol to any oil as it would, I imagine, be quite acidic.
I had the same thought - it seems like a lot to be a detergent hang-over residue. Actually, scratch that - I've just looked at a SDS for a typical overbased phenate and the range of alkyl phenol declared there could easily give a notifiable level in finished oil.
Yeah. I wondered as well if the Decene was just a bit of unreacted monomer in PAO?
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