Oiled paper maybe, but my take on this is that the paper filters were probably doing their job and got plugged up. No air, no run but the motor's better off.
Is there a market for "better" air filters?
- Thread starter kanling
- Start date
- Status
I'm with goodvibes that anything with a decent air cleaner had plugged.
Oil bath aircleaners are pretty poor at filtration, just a little up from using flyscreen.
I can't remember the numbers, but do a search on here, its been covered in the past pretty well. I have a FIAT tractor with a big oil bath filter, and when I get the chance will convert it to a Donaldson style cyclonic/paper filter assembly. I've had the intake hose between the air cleaner and manifold off a few times, and it isn't pretty.
Widman has had some pretty good posts on real world results with aftermarket oil bath filters vs paper in Bolivia, again, not good.
I'm not familiar with Filtrete, but I can tell you that most filter media used in the air conditioning industry doesn't filter anywhere near what your paper air filter in the car can filter down to.
Much better filtration media is used in paint booth filters, both for air entering and in the exhaust. The technology that goes into them is pretty remarkable to catch the nasties from escaping into the atmosphere.
In air conditioning I've pretty much always used Viledon medias from Germany, which are a graduated synthetic material, and our most commonly used grade in commercial applications only filters in the 65-85% total arrestance range.
If you look at the latest split type units that use active HEPA, electrostatic, etc, type filters, these filters are an additional clip on type, and are only filtering a very small % of the total air flow through the fan coil, at a guess much, much less than 10%. If you look at the main filter in any split type air conditioner, even top of the range stuff from, say, Daikin, the main filter is barely a step up from flyscreen, otherwise the pressure drop through the filter would far too great for the face area used.
oh, and I forgot to add that I've used air conditioning filter media as a pre-wrap around my Jeep air cleaner when I was 20 (twenty years ago) and also used it as an air cleaner on some race cars almost fifteen years ago, when the engineer in charge believed air cleaners killed power. We later moved onto foam, then K&N's after dyno testing and making more power with the K&N than with no air cleaner at all. ;-)
Uh-oh. Get ready to rumble!
K&Ns really aren't all THAT horrible at filtering. I don't use one on my current car, I'm not recommending them, and I dislike the oil getting pulled in more than the loss in filtration itself. Even so, I'm pretty sure you can get most engines to outlast the rest of the car even with a K&N. Although apparentely some MAFs will fail more rapidly with an oiled filter... but chances are those MAFs aren't the best built to begin with.
I never said you did. My post was just a follow-up, almost an aside. Hence the lack of quote.quote:
Originally posted by tdi-rick:
I said absolutely nothing about a K&N's filtration (or lack of) ability
I use a Sharper Image Ionic Breeze filter with dc-ac converter and aluminum sheeting as duct/housing for Ionic Breeze that directs air to the factory airbox which contains AC Delco paper.
Is there a plus to an Ion producing filter for an engine? Do you have a picture of this thing for us to see?
Mark
Ionic Breeze?! LOL!
I once imagined converting a filter from a Plymouth Breeze to use on a Saturn Ion. It looked sharp.
I hope you put a "Type R" sticker on it
Here's what I use:
Wix Air Filter Wrap
and...
Wix Air Filter
I'm getting a particle count with my next UOA, so I'll find out how effective it is.
Wix Air Filter Wrap
and...
Wix Air Filter
I'm getting a particle count with my next UOA, so I'll find out how effective it is.
As demonstrated by a world where you can spend as much or as little as you could ever imagine on nearly any consumer item.
You can spend $2, and get a functioning boom-box from a garage sale, or you can spend $2,000,000 on the most elaborate home audio equipment man has devised.... both the garage sale boombox, and the 2 million dollar option, have customers on this planet... THAT, demonstrates that there are people out there, that want the best of the best of the best, and for some of those folks, money is no object at all.
If there really is a market for a better air filter, then AMSOIL should sell a bunch of the new ones.
Info on their website, purchases available direct or through your local AMSOIL sponsor.
Extreme filtration, long life. Costs less per year than the well-known free flow serviceable filters.
Info on their website, purchases available direct or through your local AMSOIL sponsor.
Extreme filtration, long life. Costs less per year than the well-known free flow serviceable filters.
I would love to see a pic of this. However, I am not sure if you are serious or not?
- Status
