Originally Posted By: goodtimes
Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Repeat
The three filter brands/models I mentioned are designed / aligned with racing / high performance.
I really don't care what you think about advertisements of such.
Putting a filter on a hi-pro car doesn't make it a "racing filter". Some guys also use a basic Fram EG on hi-pro cars and "race cars", but doesn't mean it's actually "designed/aligned" for racing and high performance. Only the manufacturer can make that claim.
Yes, some do use filters other than the ones mentioned.
Who ever said they couldn't?
The filters I mentioned are designed for high performance and racing in-mind. They offer improved oil flow over their sister products.
If you believe the Fram Ultra flows like the three I mentioned, well my vehicles say otherwise and I've commented on that in recent various threads here. My GM no longer exhibits decreased idle, stutters, lowered oil pressure readings and cold startup rattle, the very minute I uninstalled the Ultra.
If you feel you can have both top-dog filtering and top-dog oil flow, then please show it to the racing industry. But don't hand them a Ultra, not if you want to invited back to their private, hood open car shows, commonly seen here that house 50-75 vehicles for a few hours in main business parking lots.
Math numbers, charts, stats and computations are nice on paper to show here. But math answers don;t work on your and my rides. Many times a dirty, greasy hand and a little common sense will outperform that computer print-out you have.
I'm done with this discussion..... take care.
Two questions. One, why don't the Fram Racing filters use Ultra media if it's so top dog? Secondly, where is that 22 psi Fram Ultra cross for the PF64?
First question- We sell racing filters for 10$ retail that have 500 psi burst strength and can run constant 200psi pressure. They have 5/16 thick tapping plates, silicone adbv's, screen over the hi flow bypass and are 94%@20 microns, flow between 12-22pm depending on model and are suitable for HP street car use up to 6k miles. So, why would we need to add 3+$ in cost so they could go 20k miles with a 5% improvement in efficiency? Most real race cars change oil before every race, it would be a waste of money to use Ultra media in a racing filter that already has 40% synthetic glass media. We field a road racing team at Racers Edge Motorsports that run endurance races in the Pirelli World Sportscar Challenge. These cars run off the shelf Ultra filters (XG2) and 2/3 of the way through the season all engines running just fine! Why no 22psi filter for GM? We have one for the 4 cylinders that came out with this requirement. p/n 12060 GM consolidated this to include older models including V8's. The current part number fits a ton of other Ford and Mopar applications, all of which had to be verified for use with a 22psi bypass, that work is complete however we will not be launching these until Jan 1st due to catalog costs. It costs us 500,000 to print and mail catalogs to customers and doing that twice a year is not in he plans. All these older GM models seemed to get along fine with the older relief valve and now GM in a consolidation move decided to make them all 22psi. Things are way ore complicated that ya'll think they are.
