iPhone 5 vs Samsung Galaxy S III

[JHZR2]

It's funny because my iPhone battery has retained capacity so much better than my work blackberry. There are so many grades of battery and so many different chemistries that one may need a battery to be readily replaceable while others don't. HP and apple, as I recall, we're using a high end battery in their laptops, I recall seeing a brief from one of the major manufacturers (battery manufacturers, not the computer makers selling their wares).

I would always love more battery life, but that's a function of a larger battery, not carrying two, IMO...

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
It's funny because my iPhone battery has retained capacity so much better than my work blackberry. There are so many grades of battery and so many different chemistries that one may need a battery to be readily replaceable while others don't. HP and apple, as I recall, we're using a high end battery in their laptops, I recall seeing a brief from one of the major manufacturers (battery manufacturers, not the computer makers selling their wares).

I would always love more battery life, but that's a function of a larger battery, not carrying two, IMO...


Agreed. I like a replaceable battery because if it is defective, I can replace it without having to send my phone in for warranty (they'll just send me a new battery). I would never want to have to swap between batteries, that would be ridiculous.

What BB do you have at work? Battery life on BB's is all over the map. My 9900 can't hold a candle to the SGS3, which is sort of silly. My old BOLD 9000 had awesome battery life. I can't say the same for the 9870 that replaced it.

 

[rg200amp]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL


You just illustrated exactly what I said. The SIII is Glass/Aluminum/Plastic, the iPhone 4S is Glass/Stainless/Plastic.

You're being obtuse. You would like to have the discussion pointed to the fact that both phones use the same materials (metal, glass, and plastic) and they are equals.

I am stating that the BODY of the SIII is made of plastic. It may have a metal rim for looks, but the body and "frame" of the phone is plastic.

Where as the IPhone has a body made out of solid metal.

There is a major difference from what you are stating and what I am stating.

 

[ToyotaNSaturn]

SIII vs iphone 5.


Let's see...the SIII is a nice phone, so it the iPhone 4S & 5.

On my Droid, I can't play the popular Zynga's "Matching With Friends". Why? They don't make it! It's only on the iOS devices.

So my wife texts me the other day (from her lowly iPhone 3GS), 'hey, let's try the Gems with Friends (from Zynga)'. I said "wait til I grab my iphone cuz my droid doesn't have it'.

Droids such as the SIII are really nice, and fast, and uber-configurable. But w/o the apps that are in demand, it's not worth moving to the Android platform IMO.

 

[BearZDefect]

I would not be surprised if Apple's customizations to the latest ARM processor design are really steps to keep their platform (both hardware and software) locked up.

That said, their business model is good: Build products users will like and lock them exclusively into Apple hardware and software. The issue from non-techy users (that I agree with) is the lack of a MicroSD card to force you to pay $100 for the +8GB upgrade and another $100 for another +16GB storage. This one is an obvious burn for some users.

Not all users like to be on the receiving end of that business model, so thank goodness we have Android as an alternative. Enter the open platform and everything is all over the place. Good and bad. Make the wrong choice within this sphere and regrets could ensue. But for business, being able to install custom software on a phone without going through the 'store' is appreciated.

I am not a smartphone user (I prefer my PC for tasks that require such smarts) so I don't have a first hand opinion about the phones in question, but I appreciate what a smartphone offers to someone on the move, and I am sure that most people with an iPhone 4 just out of contract will do well with a 5.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: rg200amp
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL


You just illustrated exactly what I said. The SIII is Glass/Aluminum/Plastic, the iPhone 4S is Glass/Stainless/Plastic.

You're being obtuse. You would like to have the discussion pointed to the fact that both phones use the same materials (metal, glass, and plastic) and they are equals.

I am stating that the BODY of the SIII is made of plastic. It may have a metal rim for looks, but the body and "frame" of the phone is plastic.

Where as the IPhone has a body made out of solid metal.

There is a major difference from what you are stating and what I am stating.



Obtuse? No sir, you are simply being rude now.

These images illustrate the following:

1. Both phones use a metal frame (stainless for iPhone, aluminum for the SGS3) as the base to mount the PCB and the body plastic/glass to.

2. The iPhone has a plastic back with a sheet of glass over it for tactile feel.

3. The SGS3 uses a plastic back, with a plastic back mount because the back is NOT RIGID. So there is a plastic "brace" that it clips into. This brace mounts to the aluminum FRAME.

4. Both phones mount the glass/screen assembly to the METAL FRAME.

You are trying to argue that the iPhone is better built than it actually is and that the SGS3 has an inferior build to what it actually has. The big difference is how the back is made and affixed to the body. They BOTH use a metal frame as the core of their units with the SGS3 having the extra piece of body plastic to attach the back to as well as provide access to the removable battery, SDCARD and SIM card.

And this is hardly exclusive to the SGS3, iPhone..etc. You are arguing with the wrong person on this one, I have literally had close to 100 smartphones and their predecessors apart, dating right back to the original Blackberry 950. Even the old blue blackberry phones were an aluminum frame with plastics and the PCB mounted to them. This is STANDARD construction.

The major difference with the iPhone is the use of stainless over aluminum for weight (and it feels colder, which feels higher quality...) and the use of a skin of glass on the back plastic to add to tactile feel of the device.

 

[rg200amp]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL

1. Both phones use a metal frame (stainless for iPhone, aluminum for the SGS3) as the base to mount the PCB and the body plastic/glass to.

2. The iPhone has a plastic back with a sheet of glass over it for tactile feel.

The major difference with the iPhone is the use of stainless over aluminum for weight (and it feels colder, which feels higher quality...) and the use of a skin of glass on the back plastic to add to tactile feel of the device.


I am not trying to be rude. I am trying to get you to understand.

The SIII DOES NOT have a metal frame or body. The aluminum "trim" around the outside is just that. Trim. It is for show.

The phone's CORE, Body, Frame, ect. . . is PLASTIC.

The iPhone 4/4S feels better in the hand because it's BODY/FRAME is built with nothing but METAL. And everything is mounted onto that solid metal body/frame. Unlike the SIII. Where everything is mounted to plastic.

I CAN'T break it down any simpler. It is up to YOU to face the facts.

I am not saying the SIII is bad because of the way it's built. I am just stating how it is built and why I like the iPhone. I make the statement because it IS how it is built. You can twist any words you want. But facts are the facts.

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL

"You are arguing with the wrong person on this one"


Im not arguing. I am stating facts.

 

[OVERKILL]

If you look closely at the pictures you are posting, you'll see that the trim and what you are calling plastic are one piece. They are PAINTED because they aren't brushed stainless like on the iPhone. That's why the phone is RIGID, because the frame is aluminum.

I can post pictures of the inside of a Blackberry that illustrate the same thing if you'd like, if it makes it clearer for you?

Seriously, look again at what you've posted. The part that LOOKS like aluminum, the part that is black, and the part that is beige are all one piece. They are painted different hues, but are all one piece of (ugly) aluminum, painted up to look nice around the edge where it is visible.

If the frame was completely plastic, it would be incredibly fragile and not provide adequate rigidity for the glass to mount to and not break. As I said, this is common practice among smartphone manufacturers, the use of the aluminum frame that everything else mounts to.

 

[rg200amp]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
If you look closely at the pictures you are posting, you'll see that the trim and what you are calling plastic are one piece. They are PAINTED because they aren't brushed stainless like on the iPhone. That's why the phone is RIGID, because the frame is aluminum.

I can post pictures of the inside of a Blackberry that illustrate the same thing if you'd like, if it makes it more clearer for you?



Here are Xrays of the two phones.

Note the metal body/frame of the iPhone.

Not the lack of metal body/frame of the SIII. Unless that "paint" can make metal vanish. . .

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL


Seriously, look again at what you've posted. The part that LOOKS like aluminum,


But it's not. . .

Are we done yet? Or should we continue?

No skin off by back. . . .

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: rg200amp
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
If you look closely at the pictures you are posting, you'll see that the trim and what you are calling plastic are one piece. They are PAINTED because they aren't brushed stainless like on the iPhone. That's why the phone is RIGID, because the frame is aluminum.

I can post pictures of the inside of a Blackberry that illustrate the same thing if you'd like, if it makes it more clearer for you?



Here are Xrays of the two phones.

Note the metal body/frame of the iPhone.

Not the lack of metal body/frame of the SIII. Unless that "paint" can make metal vanish. . .

Are we done yet? Or should we continue?

No skin off by back. . . .


Are you knowledgeable about how a 1/2" thick piece of steel (the depth of the side of the iPhone) is going to show up in comparison to a thin piece of aluminum?

Does it not concern you that the contrast of the PCB on the iPhone, which is obviously not steel, shows to be the same as the side of the phone?

 

[rg200amp]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: rg200amp
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
If you look closely at the pictures you are posting, you'll see that the trim and what you are calling plastic are one piece. They are PAINTED because they aren't brushed stainless like on the iPhone. That's why the phone is RIGID, because the frame is aluminum.

I can post pictures of the inside of a Blackberry that illustrate the same thing if you'd like, if it makes it more clearer for you?



Here are Xrays of the two phones.

Note the metal body/frame of the iPhone.

Not the lack of metal body/frame of the SIII. Unless that "paint" can make metal vanish. . .

Are we done yet? Or should we continue?

No skin off by back. . . .


Are you knowledgeable about how a 1/2" thick piece of steel (the depth of the side of the iPhone) is going to show up in comparison to a thin piece of aluminum?

Does it not concern you that the contrast of the PCB on the iPhone, which is obviously not steel, shows to be the same as the side of the phone?


I can't help you. I am sorry. I tried. But, I can't.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: rg200amp
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
If you look closely at the pictures you are posting, you'll see that the trim and what you are calling plastic are one piece. They are PAINTED because they aren't brushed stainless like on the iPhone. That's why the phone is RIGID, because the frame is aluminum.

I can post pictures of the inside of a Blackberry that illustrate the same thing if you'd like, if it makes it more clearer for you?



Here are Xrays of the two phones.

Note the metal body/frame of the iPhone.

Not the lack of metal body/frame of the SIII. Unless that "paint" can make metal vanish. . .

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL


Seriously, look again at what you've posted. The part that LOOKS like aluminum,


But it's not. . .

Are we done yet? Or should we continue?

No skin off by back. . . .


We are talking about two different metals of VERY different thicknesses. Have you ever used an X-ray machine? I have. We have an Agfa DXD-300 at work.

You do know the contrast you see is the variance in densities and that steel is far more dense than aluminum right?

 

[rg200amp]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: rg200amp
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
If you look closely at the pictures you are posting, you'll see that the trim and what you are calling plastic are one piece. They are PAINTED because they aren't brushed stainless like on the iPhone. That's why the phone is RIGID, because the frame is aluminum.

I can post pictures of the inside of a Blackberry that illustrate the same thing if you'd like, if it makes it more clearer for you?



Here are Xrays of the two phones.

Note the metal body/frame of the iPhone.

Not the lack of metal body/frame of the SIII. Unless that "paint" can make metal vanish. . .

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL


Seriously, look again at what you've posted. The part that LOOKS like aluminum,


But it's not. . .

Are we done yet? Or should we continue?

No skin off by back. . . .


We are talking about two different metals of VERY different thicknesses.


There is no metal body/frame in the SIII.

I am sorry. I provided as much eveidence as I care to do on a Sunday night. You *could* post evidence to support your argument. Surly on the internet somewhere your theory is proved. or just keep typing.

 

[rg200amp]

"Samsung has confirmed that the company’s third-generation Android flagship Galaxy S III smartphone would have a polycarbonate body"

"And while polycarbonate is in fact just a type of plastic"

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/05/22/...te-not-plastic/






"The all-plastic body feels a little less high-end"


http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406024,00.asp"




"The Galaxy S III has a polycarbonate plastic chassis"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_III




How about know? Can we be done know!?!?!? Or do have a rebuttal for this too????

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: rg200amp
"Samsung has confirmed that the company’s third-generation Android flagship Galaxy S III smartphone would have a polycarbonate body"

"And while polycarbonate is in fact just a type of plastic"

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/05/22/...te-not-plastic/

How about know? Can we be done know!?!?!? Or do have a rebuttal for this too????


I don't know. It doesn't say for the frame of the device but rather the body and battery cover, which of course are the back section of the phone.

When I first read a review on the device, it was stated that the frame (and the part you see out the side) was aluminum.

This is fun, you are getting worked up

 

[rg200amp]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: rg200amp
"Samsung has confirmed that the company’s third-generation Android flagship Galaxy S III smartphone would have a polycarbonate body"

"And while polycarbonate is in fact just a type of plastic"

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/05/22/...te-not-plastic/

How about know? Can we be done know!?!?!? Or do have a rebuttal for this too????


I don't know. It doesn't say for the frame of the device but rather the body and battery cover, which of course are the back section of the phone.

When I first read a review on the device, it was stated that the frame (and the part you see out the side) was aluminum.

This is fun, you are getting worked up

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_III

"The Galaxy S III has a polycarbonate plastic chassis"

Worked up? It's frustrating to have some one say "no the sky is red" when you say it's blue. . . .

 

[rg200amp]

Yea. This JUST happened.

 

[rg200amp]

OoOoOoOo! Some one caught us on film Overkill!!!

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: rg200amp
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: rg200amp
"Samsung has confirmed that the company’s third-generation Android flagship Galaxy S III smartphone would have a polycarbonate body"

"And while polycarbonate is in fact just a type of plastic"

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/05/22/...te-not-plastic/

How about know? Can we be done know!?!?!? Or do have a rebuttal for this too????


I don't know. It doesn't say for the frame of the device but rather the body and battery cover, which of course are the back section of the phone.

When I first read a review on the device, it was stated that the frame (and the part you see out the side) was aluminum.

This is fun, you are getting worked up

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_III

"The Galaxy S III has a polycarbonate plastic chassis"

Worked up? It's frustrating to have some one say "no the sky is red" when you say it's blue. . . .

This review claims it is aluminum, LOL

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cell-phone-reviews/samsung-galaxy-s3-review/

(this is the review I originally read on the device)

 

[rg200amp]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: rg200amp
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: rg200amp
"Samsung has confirmed that the company’s third-generation Android flagship Galaxy S III smartphone would have a polycarbonate body"

"And while polycarbonate is in fact just a type of plastic"

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/05/22/...te-not-plastic/

How about know? Can we be done know!?!?!? Or do have a rebuttal for this too????


I don't know. It doesn't say for the frame of the device but rather the body and battery cover, which of course are the back section of the phone.

When I first read a review on the device, it was stated that the frame (and the part you see out the side) was aluminum.

This is fun, you are getting worked up

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_III

"The Galaxy S III has a polycarbonate plastic chassis"

Worked up? It's frustrating to have some one say "no the sky is red" when you say it's blue. . . .

This review claims it is aluminum, LOL

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cell-phone-reviews/samsung-galaxy-s3-review/

(this is the review I originally read on the device)


Im not seeing where they claimed it had an Aluminum frame/body. . .