iOS 16.1 new “feature” extends the insanity…

[RhondaHonda]

Lots of posts about making your "battery last longer" when on an iPhone Apple Store only charges a mere $49-$69 to get a battery replacement. My iPhone 11 sits at 84% capacity over 3 years and the plan is by end of year hand to daughter or trade in for iPhone 14.

I will only state I don't think about battery charge except when low then put onto my MacBook Pro 90W Usb-c charger I found and it gets to 50%in 30mins. It seems to slow down after that. Th

Neat idea on carbon footprint to pilot feature for likely future of peak energy rates.

I did the battery replacement through Apple on my old iPhone 8 and it got some of the life back but I think Apple’s new software updates really tax (intentional or not) the older model phones. It was a new battery but didn’t have anywhere the life that the phone had when new. Still, for $49 or whatever it was I got another year or so out of it.

 

[Andrew1972]

I did the battery replacement through Apple on my old iPhone 8 and it got some of the life back but I think Apple’s new software updates really tax (intentional or not) the older model phones. It was a new battery but didn’t have anywhere the life that the phone had when new. Still, for $49 or whatever it was I got another year or so out of it.

Major OS upgrades are a fine balance of feature set improvements and performance while considering previous hardware. I don't believe it is intentional to make battery life less it just an engineering compromise.

Once a blue moon operating systems like Window10 comes along and make machines originally installed with Windows XP(XP, 7, 8, 10) have better performance running Win10.

 

[alarmguy]

It's a good feature. Do you also use the lower power 5w charger. It helps to also extend longevity. Charging as slowly as needed is always good. I stepped down to a weaker 2.5w one since it still fully charges but even slower so it degrades even less.

Funny you should mention this. I believe in slow charging too. So when I got my wife an iPhone 11 even though it was capable of higher watt chargers I gave her with the phone the standard Apple 5 watt charger. But the phone burnt it out in roughly 3 weeks. So, ok, I thought it was jsut a freak thing, bought another, same thing, it burnt out.
Had some (in rough numbers) Apple 12 watt bricks laying around and never was an issue. We now both have the iPhone 13s and use the same, I think 10/12 watt. Just looked at the one I use and it says 5 volt 2.1 amp.

 

[tyman]

Turned that crap off lickety split Monday night after the upgrayd.

 

[alarmguy]

I’ve had that on since day 1 but looks like I lost 5% battery life in a year. I didn’t know if people were just manually charging to 50% or if there was a setting. I’m too lazy to do the manual thing and it doesn’t look like there’s a setting to set your charge percentage to. I’ll leave my optimized charging on though.

I plug it in while watching TV at night, most times it goes to 100% other times not quite. I then unplug it before going to sleep most times, only because I move it to my nightstand, if I wake up at night, I put my earbuds into to listen to music and go back to sleep.
My wife goes out of her way to unplug it between 80 to 90% but she doesnt use her phone as much because of work. Retired now I use mine A LOT.

Anyway, both iPhone 13's Started using them Christmas 2021 as of today both phones are still at 100% battery life.
Before I retired I did plug it in all night and pretty much the same result, it was then I noticed with the smart charge it would wait till the final hours of the morning before I disconnected the phone to be at 100%. IN fact the phone told you what it was doing.

I never really was concerned about battery life though. Get rid of my phones long before any concern 2 to 3 years.

 

[JavierH19]

Funny you should mention this. I believe in slow charging too. So when I got my wife an iPhone 11 even though it was capable of higher watt chargers I gave her with the phone the standard Apple 5 watt charger. But the phone burnt it out in roughly 3 weeks. So, ok, I thought it was jsut a freak thing, bought another, same thing, it burnt out.
Had some (in rough numbers) Apple 12 watt bricks laying around and never was an issue. We now both have the iPhone 13s and use the same, I think 10/12 watt. Just looked at the one I use and it says 5 volt 2.1 amp.

mustve been a faulty power supply. I've been using the 5w for a years and my battery health is next to new.

 

[alarmguy]

mustve been a faulty power supply. I've been using the 5w for a years and my battery health is next to new.

Its sooo strange, went through two of them. I thought the same as you. Got me.

 

[Hall]

I don't believe it is intentional to make battery life less it just an engineering compromise.

Absolutely. In most cases, Apple implements features across all supported models unless it's 100% restricted by the hardware or more accurately, lack of hardware. It's the same reason why iOS 16 probably makes an iPhone 7 or 8 (I don't know how far back it goes) feel a little bit slower.... It's partly "bloat" but it's also just demanding more from the CPU to operate.

 

[JavierH19]

Absolutely. In most cases, Apple implements features across all supported models unless it's 100% restricted by the hardware or more accurately, lack of hardware. It's the same reason why iOS 16 probably makes an iPhone 7 or 8 (I don't know how far back it goes) feel a little bit slower.... It's partly "bloat" but it's also just demanding more from the CPU to operate.

I believe it has more to do with the older models having just 2 or 3gb of ram which isn't much. It's about the bare minimum for it to run but performance isn't good. I believe it has to both compress the data in ram and also page file a little like a regular computer to keep things working.

 

[PimTac]

Absolutely. In most cases, Apple implements features across all supported models unless it's 100% restricted by the hardware or more accurately, lack of hardware. It's the same reason why iOS 16 probably makes an iPhone 7 or 8 (I don't know how far back it goes) feel a little bit slower.... It's partly "bloat" but it's also just demanding more from the CPU to operate.

I believe this as well. Some of the Apple News sites will talk about a model of iPhone running iOS 16 but not optimally and certain features are not available. Even my iPhone 11 has some restrictions due to the lack of LIDAR. The bigger question is if these features are that important to you that you need to upgrade?

 

[Hall]

The bigger question is if these features are that important to you that you need to upgrade?

You can't miss what you've never had Speaking of hardware limitations like I mentioned above, my previous iPhone was an 8, so it still had a Home button and Touch ID. I didn't "miss" Face ID 'cause I never had it (or used it). Now that I have it though, it sure is convenient ! Or my 12 takes great pictures but I was perfectly happy with the pictures the 8 took. Downgrading would be hard, but staying where you are is fine.

 

[alarmguy]

Update - 8/26/2024
Iphone 13 is at 89% useful life now. Not bad after 2.5 years of fairly heavy use. My wife's iPhone 13 is more lightly used, she is also at 89%.
I suspect I am doing better then her because I slow charge with a 10 watt charger, battery never or barely gets warm. She uses a mag charger, it charges fast but wow, that phone gets warm.

I would love to get a new phone in the coming year and hope Apple comes up with something new. Im getting bored and wish for maybe a nice flip phone that someone else posted like a Samsung Galaxy Flip 6 OR a non flip phone but stellar camera like the Xiaomi 14 Ultra which I would LOVE in an iPhone format.

Except for those two I feel the "magic" is all gone in these phones of all makes. I guess we hit the limits of what can be.

 

[wwillson]

Iphone 13 is at 89% useful life now. Not bad after 2.5 years of fairly heavy use.

Mine is at 95% after about the same amount of time and also very heavy use. I normally keep the charge between 40-50% and once in a while it will charge > 60% or < 30%, but not often.

 

[alarmguy]

You can't miss what you've never had Speaking of hardware limitations like I mentioned above, my previous iPhone was an 8, so it still had a Home button and Touch ID. I didn't "miss" Face ID 'cause I never had it (or used it). Now that I have it though, it sure is convenient ! Or my 12 takes great pictures but I was perfectly happy with the pictures the 8 took. Downgrading would be hard, but staying where you are is fine.

I dearly miss the Touch ID that I had on my Android phones. I dont trust Face ID but it's good enough for now. I could go to passcode but ... well ...

 

[alarmguy]

@wwillson
Thats amazing at 95% and working well for you. I dont think I would be able to repeat that though, being retired I can run through 50% in half a day and rarely but sometimes it's down to almost nothing by late evening after dinner. I do when in the truck plug it in.
Also in settings I have a lot of stuff turned off, such as apps using power/data unless open.
I just pulled up the chart, used 50% or more 4 out of the last 10 days. Im unsure if charging in-between resets that usage number?
This might be on the milder side of usage if not because I do plug in a lot when in my truck.

 

[alarmguy]

Maybe make your software more efficient instead? Have your screen use less energy? This is crazy. Pretty soon it won’t be an option, you’ll only be “allowed” to charge your phone between 8-10pm, and if your phone is dead outside of this, you’re SOL.View attachment 122852

Your post is void of any reality.
I just wanted to post this for those that do not know

You will always be able to charge your phone whenever you feel like it
If you are greeny you have the option (which has been around for a while )of doing otherwise.

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

Your post is void of any reality.
I just wanted to post this for thosebb that do not know

You will always be able to charge your phone whenever you feel like it
If you are greeny you have the option (which has been around for a while )of doing otherwise.

Having to dig up a 2-year old post to tell me you’ve got a different opinion is pretty fickle.

You probably also believe the government won’t ever be able to tell you when you can or can’t drive “your” own car, am I right?

This nugget was hidden in the “Inflation Reduction Act”…. What does being able to remotely disable anyone’s vehicle have to do with inflation? Read this and tell me it’s benign on its face. You can’t.

In software terms, “passively” suggests the “impaired driving prevention” kill switch technology will always be running in the background and constantly monitoring the vehicle for deviation from normal driving habits, which will also mean the vehicle will need to learn your specific idiosyncrasies behind the wheel in order to better profile your behavior.

The system will receive data inputs from critical operational controls, it will also be capable of overriding those controls so as to disable the vehicle either before or during driving once impairment is detected. However, the worst part of the legislation is the open nature of the system which will feature at least one backdoor for third-party access to the system’s data at any time.

Who decides what “driving impairments” qualify? Speeding? Swerving? Tailgating? Where does it start and where does it end??

What if you’re not impaired, but trying to evade a threat on you and your family’s lives, but the vehicle decides you’re impaired and shuts the car off and you’re all murdered because “public safety” deemed YOU to be the threat?

If anybody else can decide to “turn off” something you own, is it really yours? Have you researched anything about “Smart” thermostats that the utility can override whatever you’ve got for settings if they decide they need some of the power you’re using available for somebody else? My claim that this is possible is closer to reality than yours that claims that my idea is ludicrous. Just because it hasn’t happened yet doesn’t mean it’s not going to.

 

[Jimmy_Russells]

IPhone 13 with average use approaching 3 years old, battery health is at 86%. I am probably going to buy either a 15 or 16 next month after the 16 debuts. My wife has an 11 and will gladly take mine to replace hers.

 

[alarmguy]

Having to dig up a 2-year old post to tell me you’ve got a different opinion is pretty fickle.

You probably also believe the government won’t ever be able to tell you when you can or can’t drive “your” own car, am I right?

This nugget was hidden in the “Inflation Reduction Act”…. What does being able to remotely disable anyone’s vehicle have to do with inflation? Read this and tell me it’s benign on its face. You can’t.



Who decides what “driving impairments” qualify? Speeding? Swerving? Tailgating? Where does it start and where does it end??

What if you’re not impaired, but trying to evade a threat on you and your family’s lives, but the vehicle decides you’re impaired and shuts the car off and you’re all murdered because “public safety” deemed YOU to be the threat?

If anybody else can decide to “turn off” something you own, is it really yours? Have you researched anything about “Smart” thermostats that the utility can override whatever you’ve got for settings if they decide they need some of the power you’re using available for somebody else? My claim that this is possible is closer to reality than yours that claims that my idea is ludicrous. Just because it hasn’t happened yet doesn’t mean it’s not going to.

Well, I bet others have made the mistake of replying to an old post, I can’t be the only one, though my reply is still valid. So all fair in “digging up.”

As far as the new stuff you posted, it doesn’t affect me and never will.
For those that it does, you get what you vote for. I’m done fighting “them” and for “them” it’s up to the new generation now.
My life has been great, born, raised lived the best of times in the USA, I think we are past the point of no return and in just a few decades I won’t be here to see it thank god
I never saw such a population who lacks common sense and critical thinking that relies on social media and dumbed down mass media news sources to make decisions even when the massive inaccuracies that took place over the last decade are proven to be true

Based on your post you have definitely miscategorized me

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

I’d say based on your general response we’re likely roughly the same age. It appears we both know what this country should be based on its ideals and historical perspectives. I agree the current population has minimal critical thinking skills and is generally intellectually challenged thanks to the state of government education.

I’d love to agree I miscategorized you but if you can’t agree that the “sensational” headline today isn’t tomorrow’s norm, I’m afraid I have not. Either way you’re not the adversary; “they” still are. Hoping you’ll see this and agree; until we can both say that the crazy ideas are back to being fringe rather than “potential”. Until then, that’s ok, but understand my experience has led me to believe that for every inch we concede leads to a mile of lost freedoms.