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Maybe. I don't really worry much about being called, because I never buy over face. That said with a convertible the terms are important, in this case not much worry of conversion
With short rates at 550 BPS and you at 600, your not going to get called.

If short rates go to 100, that may change?

If your time horizon is 30 years, then that changes things also.

I definitely need to research the conversion. I think that's mostly an option for the owner, not the company - ie if there stock skyrockets the preferred owner can convert to common stock. But this is all new to me so possibly I am way off.
 
Am I mistaken - I thought you had retired? If you are no longer an active employee you can roll your 401 to a "rollover IRA", which is like mostly any other IRA, relative to the investment parts at least?
yes I am, I have paid NO attention to the 401k for years until today. I always thought I would like to roll it into my Roth ( which I trade in on a couple times a year basis)and pay the tax now because I do fairly respectable with my personal Roth. It's fun building the Roth knowing I will have to pay no tax on withdrawals.

I don't withdrawn from them, don't need it and not really looking forward to the day I am forced. I think they just increased that to 73 which is a long way away for me... so far *LOL*

I assume you are saying, if I roll it into a non company 401k I will be able to trade individual stock instead of funds? (not that I necessarily want to but curious because I feel I do well for myself (so far)
 
yes I am, I have paid NO attention to it for years until today. I always thought I would like to roll it into my Roth and pay the tax now because I do fairly respectable with my personal Roth.

I assume you are saying, if I roll it into a non company 401k I will be able to trade individual stock instead of funds? (not that I necessarily want to but curious because I feel I do well for myself (so far)
Well, 20 years ago I had a 401K at my first company, and I rolled it into a "rollover IRA". I did that at my second company - into the same rollover IRA. You get whatever investment options your broker offers in a regular IRA - which if your with fidelity or Schwab means pretty much whatever you want. There are some different rules with a Rollover IRA, but that is on the taking it out side - I think. Likely some different tax rules as well - with investment trusts, etc. But for the most part - yes, you can buy individual stocks or bonds or whatever. As always - consult someone smarter than me :)

Having said that - if your happy with your investment options where its at, there is no need to move it.
 
Well, 20 years ago I had a 401K at my first company, and I rolled it into a "rollover IRA". I did that at my second company - into the same rollover IRA. You get whatever investment options your broker offers in a regular IRA - which if your with fidelity or Schwab means pretty much whatever you want. There are some different rules with a Rollover IRA, but that is on the taking it out side - I think. Likely some different tax rules as well - with investment trusts, etc. But for the most part - yes, you can buy individual stocks or bonds or whatever. As always - consult someone smarter than me :)

Having said that - if your happy with your investment options where its at, there is no need to move it.
This was helpful, thanks. I was self employed most my life, so it was Roth for me. The 401 k was more recent before retirement.
Good to know about Schwab, Im on the fence in a way, I might be better off leaving it so I can't speculate too much/keep myself out of trouble but I feel so confident (until the day I lose money) with individual stocks. Ok, anyway, thanks.

My wife has a company 401k and I stay out of giving any opinions. Long time ago she mentioned going over things with me BUT she does so darn well I tell her just keep doing what she does, I don't want to interfere. Its like intuition or something she just picks and goes with it *LOL*
 
With short rates at 550 BPS and you at 600, your not going to get called.

If short rates go to 100, that may change?

If your time horizon is 30 years, then that changes things also.

I definitely need to research the conversion. I think that's mostly an option for the owner, not the company - ie if there stock skyrockets the preferred owner can convert to common stock. But this is all new to me so possibly I am way off.
Well it certainly wasn’t called when the rates were pretty low even after the call date.

Patience required. I certainly would not buy either right now. There was a nice opportunity in November. Look at the charts people jump at that
 
Yes, I know, I have a personal Roth and Company 401. I very well may in the future, when I feel like paying the taxes, roll everything into the Roth. I just kept it like this as both were doing ok, considering the Roth as the speculative and 401k as conservative. It's really amazing how limited a 401k can be, yet recovered from the 2022 disaster pretty good with a 29% gain this year.
I was just looking at the Nasdaq and it lost 33% from the peak in 2021 and gained 45% from the bottom in 2023
 
Yes, I know, I have a personal Roth and Company 401. I very well may in the future, when I feel like paying the taxes, roll everything into the Roth. I just kept it like this as both were doing ok, considering the Roth as the speculative and 401k as conservative. It's really amazing how limited a 401k can be, yet recovered from the 2022 disaster pretty good with a 29% gain this year.
As @SC Maintenance said no need to go to a roth IRA, a Rollover/Traditional keeps the money pre-tax (assuming your 401K was pre-tax) and just allows you to have more investment choice. Not being of retirement age, but having rolled over a handful of pre-tax 401ks, no tax consequences as long as you follow the proper steps when rolling over. I have done a handful with TD before it was Schwab and the last one with Fidelity. Fidelity was very helpful even though they had to direct me back to get everything started with the existing institution for the 401K.

Edit: Failed to mention, if one is making backdoor roth IRA contributions, there are tax consequences of going pre-tax 401k to a (pre tax) rollover IRA. one caveat to consider, if backdoor roth contributions are in play.

I don't withdrawn from them, don't need it and not really looking forward to the day I am forced. I think they just increased that to 73 which is a long way away for me... so far *LOL*
FYI no RMDs currently on roth IRAs for the original owner.
 
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Schwab sucks BTW. I want to move it to Fidelity but I don't want to be locked out 2 weeks while it moves.
For what it is worth, TD --> Fidelity did not take two weeks for me, more like 4 or 5 days including the weekend for us I think.

Partial transfers may be your friend in this case. i moved stuff via Fidelity's transfer of assets page.
 
There is a nice window between your retirement and when you start collecting Social Security where you can roll over from a 401k or IRA to a Roth IRA at relatively low tax rates.
My company 401k was with Fidelity as was my IRA, so it made it easy. After I was 59.5 I rolled my 401k and Roth 401k into respective Fidelity IRAs. Taxable IRA was fair sized, Roth IRA was tiny, but it did start the 5 year clock for tax free Roth withdrawals.

I retired at 64 and am 72 now, having rolled from taxable IRA to Roth each year (A bit less after starting Social Security). Because of gains, my IRA is the same amount as when I started retirement. Because of rollovers and gains, my Roth is even more. I really like the flexibility of the Roth and wish I had converted more, but the tax hit would have been too much for me.

Like you, I'm not looking forward to RMDs next year, but with over half converted to Roth it won't be too bad. Using the AARP calculator, with average market returns and minimum distributions, if I live long enough the tax hit will be bad in my 80s. I plan on doubling up on IRA distributions (maybe some more Roth conversions) for the next 5 years or so to avoid that calamity.
 
Will we get to 900 ?

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I just this AM before market open took a HUGE chunk out of one account to pay ALL our Fed taxes before year end. Realize we currently have no income withheld, so I estimate and pay with a chunk. maybe overshooting a little. A little depressing to see that account go down, but OK, I'll live.

THURWHACK! That account ran right past that number without looking back. Not bad.
 
I just this AM before market open took a HUGE chunk out of one account to pay ALL our Fed taxes before year end. Realize we currently have no income withheld, so I estimate and pay with a chunk. maybe overshooting a little. A little depressing to see that account go down, but OK, I'll live.

THURWHACK! That account ran right past that number without looking back. Not bad.
Like you, with SS and rental income i dont have withholding. I'm not a tax guy (my darling spouse, the accountant does them), but I do make sure they are overpaid each year to avoid underwithholding penalties. I seem to remember we get hit with some other penalties for not estimating the right amount to pay quarterly.
 
Well, 20 years ago I had a 401K at my first company, and I rolled it into a "rollover IRA". I did that at my second company - into the same rollover IRA. You get whatever investment options your broker offers in a regular IRA - which if your with fidelity or Schwab means pretty much whatever you want. There are some different rules with a Rollover IRA, but that is on the taking it out side - I think.
As far as I can tell, the main difference between a 401K and rollover IRA is the fees (lower in a rollover IRA) and investment choices (way better in a rollover IRA)
 
As far as I can tell, the main difference between a 401K and rollover IRA is the fees (lower in a rollover IRA) and investment choices (way better in a rollover IRA)
Mostly true. I was 1000% lucky while working that Fidelity allowed "Brokeragelink" in our 401K's. We could buy MOST everything except LP's, options, future contracts/commodities - but could buy related ETFs of these.
 
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