Interesting union policy

[Pew]

You rarely see out-of-shape UPS drivers !

I've seen some with decent guts, but they all have massive calves.

Unfortunately the distro center near me stores have one guy that is a functional alcoholic and will bring those little single serving bottles with him on the job. He has gotten "fired" for it when people call it in but he'll be rehired right back because he delivers faster than most guys at his center (he does coke too.)

 

[Dave Hess]

Lady friend has to definitely ask union to see the terms of their contract and read it very closely.

Something doesn’t make sense by having weekly On - Off health insurance coverage.

 

[SC Maintenance]

They have to offer COBRA. I seriously doubt they go weekly because COBRA would be nightmare to do weekly for any insurer.

Yes this was what I was going to say. ACA says employers over I think 50 people must offer insurance. Cobra says you have I believe 60 days to sign up before your cancelled. Sounds suspect to me.

 

[Vil_Riker]

Yes this was what I was going to say. ACA says employers over I think 50 people must offer insurance. Cobra says you have I believe 60 days to sign up before your cancelled. Sounds suspect to me.

COBRA is when you are terminated. From the sounds of it, the person in question is still employed but as a part time employee. So no COBRA.

 

[Pew]

COBRA is when you are terminated. From the sounds of it, the person in question is still employed but as a part time employee. So no COBRA.

Correct, she's part time working 40-ish hours on a normal schedule. They make you jump through lots of hoops in order to get full-time status.

 

[Vercingetorix]

COBRA is when you are terminated. From the sounds of it, the person in question is still employed but as a part time employee. So no COBRA.

 

[Vil_Riker]

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Interesting, I've never seen people voluntarily going from full time to part time people offered COBRA.

 

[I<3oil]

So you don't have health insurance when you're sick/hurt/hospitalized and can't work but you do when you're well and can work? It doesn't make ANY sense and it's hard to believe that is legal. Are you sure your eligibility isn't based on your average hours over some period (3-6 months)?

If you're healthy, you won't use it vs. if you're sick, you'd use it. Saves company money. gg unions

 

[PWMDMD]

If you're healthy, you won't use it vs. if you're sick, you'd use it. Saves company money. gg unions

I get what they're doing...I just can't believe it's legal to take away health insurance because you were sick or hurt. There's absolutely no way this works and I can't believe any state would allow it.

 

[SC Maintenance]

COBRA is when you are terminated. From the sounds of it, the person in question is still employed but as a part time employee. So no COBRA.

I don’t think so. Cobra is about losing health insurance at all. The whole point is you can’t simply be cut off at the knees at the employers whim.

 

[Pew]

I get what they're doing...I just can't believe it's legal to take away health insurance because you were sick or hurt. There's absolutely no way this works and I can't believe any state would allow it.

She's gonna go the next 3 days and try to work 12-hour shifts if her body can take it. If not, we'll see in April if they drop her insurance and if that happens she's not going back.

I did ask another friend about this and he said Best Buy did the same thing when he worked there 15 years ago. 32 hours a week minimum or you get drop at renewal.

Fingers crossed that everything goes okay but seizure meds are like $300 - $600 without insurance.

 

[PWMDMD]

She's gonna go the next 3 days and try to work 12-hour shifts if her body can take it. If not, we'll see in April if they drop her insurance and if that happens she's not going back.

I did ask another friend about this and he said Best Buy did the same thing when he worked there 15 years ago. 32 hours a week minimum or you get drop at renewal.

Fingers crossed that everything goes okay but seizure meds are like $300 - $600 without insurance.

Yeah but renewal is typically yearly and so that has to be at least an average of 32 hours per week during the year.

 

[Pew]

Yeah but renewal is typically yearly and so that has to be at least an average of 32 hours per week during the year.

Yep, but for them it's every 6 months. I'm hoping it's average to.

 

[earlyre]

I've worked at a different grocery chain ( Meijer) for the last 27.5 years. Been a UFCW member most of that time( 90 day probationary period at the beginning before you officially join) My "local" (UFCW Local 1059) covers 3/4 of Ohio, based out of Columbus.
I know ( Pre-ACA) that some of the other companies whose workers they represent, got their health insurance from the Union.

We at Meijer do not, the company has a Separate "Universal Benefits Agreement" voted on by the whole company, separate from the Union contracts. ( Not all Meijer stores are Union. all but a couple of the MI stores are, as are stores in OH, and KY, but the IN, IL, and WI stores are not.

one time, in my first couple years (1999 or so) , they cut hours down to the point that I didn't qualify, and had to enroll in Cobra until they got my hours back up.

but that weekly stuff... sounds fishy as all get out.... as a 27 yr UFCW member.

 

[nomas]

I was Union for my whole career . The Union did not set policy for sick leave or insurance benefits . The company was responsible for that .

 

[SC Maintenance]

Yep, but for them it's every 6 months. I'm hoping it's average to.

So it’s if you drop below full time for some period of time - not a single week. That makes more sense.

She must have a policy somewhere?

Doesn’t she get accrued sick time? That typically counts as on the clock?

 

[earlyre]

So it’s if you drop below full time for some period of time - not a single week. That makes more sense.

She must have a policy somewhere?

Doesn’t she get accrued sick time? That typically counts as on the clock?

we don't.
in fact we don't get "sick time" or "Vacation Days"... we Get a Set Number of paid Days off as defined by our Union Contract. how many depends on how long you've been with the company. I've been there for for 27 years, My Fiancee ( still not used to saying that) only has 15 years in. Pretty sure I get a whole week more than she does.

 

[Pew]

So it’s if you drop below full time for some period of time - not a single week. That makes more sense.

She must have a policy somewhere?

Doesn’t she get accrued sick time? That typically counts as on the clock?

Yep, it's from the handbook. No sick time nor paid time off. There's one lady there for 20-something years, she's got no PTO nor sick time. I'll see if she can bring it over next time, I want to take a look at it too.

Overall, Jewel-Osco is a POS mismanaged chain but hers is the worse one. No water on the floor, all cashiers must stand, managers don't care and that gets passed down to the employees. Her store director made the mentally-disabled hot-food worker put fried chicken back from the to-go bags back in the tray and verbally scolded him in front of customers the entire time. Store director violated ADA by telling a disabled employee they cannot park in handicapped and must park further away in employee parking.

/rant!

 

[dbias]

A contract is an agreement between the union and the company. The company will push for productivity and discipline concerns while of course the union will be looking for wages, benefits, work conditions and seniority concerns.
There are great and terrible unions and companies in all sectors of the economy.
My experience with the IAFF and my local was very positive. I was able to retire at 52 with a defined compensation pension and full benefits for life. After factoring in that West Virginia does not have an income tax on municipal pensions and also that I had maxed out my retirement plan I literally make as much as I did now as when I was working.
Our union is very progressive at the national level with training programs offered for free to fire departments to help keep training up to date and helping the city keep or improve their ISO ratings with the insurance industry which lowers the cost of both residential and commercial insurance within our jurisdiction.
Recently the IAFFs decades long push to repeal the unfair WEP provision for social security has put hundreds of dollars a month back into firefighters pockets if they had social security contributions outside of our pension contributions. And they recently got cancer to be accepted as a covered disability condition and line of duty death.

https://www.iaff.org/news/senate-pa...ng-fire-fighter-cancer-as-line-of-duty-death/

 

[SC Maintenance]

we don't.
in fact we don't get "sick time" or "Vacation Days"... we Get a Set Number of paid Days off as defined by our Union Contract. how many depends on how long you've been with the company. I've been there for for 27 years, My Fiancee ( still not used to saying that) only has 15 years in. Pretty sure I get a whole week more than she does.

PTO is better. I almost never use my sick time so I simply lose it.