interesting info about carbon capture tech

[Mechanician]

Umm, net export of petroleum, not net exporter of crude oil. Minor detail, but you have to include petroleum products in the total for the math to work.

Such as gasoline.
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=63224

EDIT: How much cheaper would gasoline be if "WE" weren't exporting nearly a million barrels of it daily?

 

[SC Maintenance]

Umm, net export of petroleum, not net exporter of crude oil. Minor detail, but you have to include petroleum products in the total for the math to work.

Duly noted.

 

[zzyzzx]

I think the point here is that probably someone wasted a bunch of taxpayers money on inventing something that can be done way cheaper by a tree.

 

[oil pan 4]

CO2 capture is being blocked by so called environmentalists because you need pipe lines to connect the place where it's captured to the place where it's stored.

 

[SC Maintenance]

I think the point here is that probably someone wasted a bunch of taxpayers money on inventing something that can be done way cheaper by a tree.

Not exactly, more like a forest in a tube. Of course we would need to figure out hot to commercialize it, but it is very interesting, to me at least.

"We took a powder of this material, put it in a tube, and we passed Berkeley air — just outdoor air — into the material to see how it would perform, and it was beautiful. It cleaned the air entirely of CO2. Everything,” said Omar Yaghi, the James and Neeltje Tretter Professor of Chemistry at UC Berkeley"

 

[Mechanician]

Is it even possible to plant enough trees to help lower the CO2 in the atmosphere?
Estimates of the number of trees needed to offset one person vary widely.
The population is estimated to be growing at 1.1% annually.

 

[zzyzzx]

The population is estimated to be growing at 1.1% annually.

Bill Gates has a solution for that.

 

[JeffKeryk]

I'm often amused at the reference to "OUR" oil.
It comes out of our ground, and instantly becomes "theirs".

Such as gasoline.
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=63224

EDIT: How much cheaper would gasoline be if "WE" weren't exporting nearly a million barrels of it daily?

Oil is sold on the world market.

 

[Mechanician]

Bill Gates has a solution for that.

Soylent Green?

 

[thastinger]

I'm often amused at the reference to "OUR" oil.
It comes out of our ground, and instantly becomes "theirs".

We named it "Mineral Rights"

 

[Mechanician]

Oil is sold on the world market.

That's what seems to escape many people when the discussion arises.

 

[thastinger]

Not exactly, more like a forest in a tube. Of course we would need to figure out hot to commercialize it, but it is very interesting, to me at least.

"We took a powder of this material, put it in a tube, and we passed Berkeley air — just outdoor air — into the material to see how it would perform, and it was beautiful. It cleaned the air entirely of CO2. Everything,” said Omar Yaghi, the James and Neeltje Tretter Professor of Chemistry at UC Berkeley"

You'll need to be taxed (carbon emissions tax) before that model becomes economically viable....someone has to pay.

 

[SC Maintenance]

That's what seems to escape many people when the discussion arises.

Not to the degree people think. There are a hundred types of crude. They range at this instant from about $52 to $75 a barrel based both on type and location. You can see most of them here.

Also as mentioned, refineries are set up to take a specific blend, and change over can take months or years and cost a fortune.

That is why said price "shocks" don't happen here anymore. Not only does the USA have ample supply, even if someone else was willing to pay more, they wouldn't have a refinery to process it.

Now refined product on the other hand is a very different story, because that is end user ready.

https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/

 

[thastinger]

That's what seems to escape many people when the discussion arises.

Only because it is traded in USD.

 

[thastinger]

CO2 capture is being blocked by so called environmentalists because you need pipe lines to connect the place where it's captured to the place where it's stored.

How much of the .0389% of the atmosphere, which is the CO2 percentage, are we trying to get rid of? Can't get rid of all of it, everything that is green and alive needs it to live.

 

[Bjornviken]

How much of the .0389% of the atmosphere, which is the CO2 percentage, are we trying to get rid of? Can't get rid of all of it, everything that is green and alive needs it to live.

that's what i am been asking. Would be interesting to know the numbers. Hope it's not under 300 ppm

 

[Ws6]

I have circled for you the "spike" when 1,000+ people were killed in Israel and the next middle east war was supposed to have started.

Data trumps Fearmongering. Its no longer 1973.

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I have drawn you a handy graph of my EV fuel:

 

[4WD]

Oil is sold on the world market.

Yep - exploration and production is also an international business - therefore investors respond accordingly …

 

[Snagglefoot]

that's what i am been asking. Would be interesting to know the numbers. Hope it's not under 300 ppm

Here is something from the Mauna Loa Observatory in Hawaii. There are now satellites that measure this. Don’t shoot the messenger.

 

[thastinger]

Here is something from the Mauna Loa Observatory in Hawaii. There are now satellites that measure this. Don’t shoot the messenger.

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Historically low levels. The ice core samples show 400ppm 4 million years ago and 1000ppm 50 million years ago. It just so happens that CO2 levels prior to the industrial revolution were at historically low levels.