'Inevitable' Canada will face ISIS-style terror

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Originally Posted By: Mystic
Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
Originally Posted By: Mystic
It has already happened in England where a British soldier was beheaded in public. And in the USA a man allegedly killed four people in Washington State and in New Jersey. Also, four alleged terrorists were stopped trying to get into the USA from the southern border. It does not seem like fear mongering.
So what? As compared to the several thousand other murders that happen here every year? Who gives a frack? Are you going to shudder in fear of "terrorists" when you're statistically more likely to get struck by lightening or shot by some [censored] hearing "voices"?
I am amazed that somebody cannot tell the difference between ordinary murders that occur and a terrorist threat.
Why? Are "terrorist murders" making you more dead?
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Maybe if terrorists manage to bring in a 'dirty bomb' or biological weapons (information about biological weapons was found on a terrorist laptop computer) it will be possible for some people to figure out the difference. But with the state of education I am not very optimistic about it.
Biological weapons are extraordinarily difficult to deliver effectively. There was a gas attack in the Tokyo subway some years ago. But that was by a suicide cult IIRC... In fact, just launching terror attacks where there is little base of support is pretty difficult...
 
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This is the last time I will attempt to explain the difference between a terrorist organization and ordinary murderers, cults, etc. Not so many years ago 19 terrorists were able to murder almost 3000 people in the USA and cause probably in excess of a trillion dollars worth of damage. Sure, some weird cult could potentially do the same. As was pointed out a cult in Japan attempted to kill a large number of people using poison gas. Although that cult with its resources and number of members could probably be considered for all practical purposes a terrorist organization. There are different kinds of terrorists. A lone wolf terrorist might be able to kill only a few people. When the leading nation state that supports terrorism obtains nuclear weapons far larger numbers of people could potentially be killed. Maybe at that point some people here might be able to understand the difference between terrorist organizations and serial killers or cults. It is unlikely that a serial murderer or even a cult would be able to obtain nuclear weapons. But nuclear weapons could potentially be supplied to a terrorist organization. Very recently 15 individuals were arrested by some 800 police in Australia. Those individuals were apparently going to behead people on the streets and put the videos on social media and the internet. There has already been a public beheading of a British soldier in England which was video recorded. If some people here are unable to understand the danger terrorist organizations represent to countries like the USA, Canada, etc., than this is as far as I am going to go to try to explain the danger. As long as the people who have to deal with the terrorist organizations understand what is going on that is all that matters. Some people at an internet website arguing over the difference between serial killers, cults, and terrorist organizations is not important.
 
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Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
This says it all.
My question remains unanswered.
It will likely remain. I have over a dozen unanswered questions from this member.
 
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ISIS is just the most dangerous terrorist organization at this time. ISIS has north of 30,000 terrorist members from some 70 countries (increasing all the time)and is wealthy, bringing in some 500,000 to 3 million dollars a day in oil revenue alone. They have murdered thousands of human beings. Trying to compare ISIS with ordinary murderers or some cult is might be okay in some goofy college class but silly in the real world.
 
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Originally Posted By: GMFan
They are already here...and they want Sharia law. Stop cowering like sheep for the sake of being 'tolerant.' This is what your country is becoming while you stay soft and weak. See the streets of NYC a few weeks ago 13 years after there peaceful religion reshaped the NYC skyline and destroyed the lives of thousands. http://pamelageller.com/2014/09/photos-nyc-muslim-day-parade-2014-pro-terror-march.html/
Sorry tiger. This is the United States of America. You can have a parade and thousands of worshipers can proclaim your wall clock is god and tells you all non believers must die. The United States will endure and then overcome this is the way it is.
 
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First we need to deal with the ones that created, financed, equipped, and encouraged these groups. The CIA, and Mossad. They created these monsters, and they are ultimately responsible for the murders, mass destruction, and chaos. It turns out the the biggest enemy we have is our own gov't, and its proxy.
 
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Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
First we need to deal with the ones that created, financed, equipped, and encouraged these groups. The CIA, and Mossad. They created these monsters, and they are ultimately responsible for the murders, mass destruction, and chaos. It turns out the the biggest enemy we have is our own gov't, and its proxy.
I have heard this before. It started in the Soviet Union and it still kept alive by Russia today literally. Why have you not taken my offer to go Moscow and speak out against Putin? I bet you enjoy spreading Russian propaganda. Does it give you a warm feeling and tickle your funny bone? http://www.spiegel.de/international/busi...l-a-916162.html http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/why-russia-is-no-1-in-anti-americanism/493260.html http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelpeck/...ontrol-america/ An example from the Russian FSB "Most disturbingly, this FSB report warns, is that the ‘Tall White’ agenda being implemented by the ‘secret regime’ ruling the United States calls for the creation of a global electronic surveillance system meant to hide all true information about their presence here on earth as they enter into what one of Snowden’s documents calls the ‘final phase’ of their end plan for total assimilation and world rule.” Putin's salesman under the guise of a American on protecting Americans from the New World Order, the Boogeymen, Mossad, CIA, MI-6, and of course the MIC.
 
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Originally Posted By: GMFan
They are already here...and they want Sharia law. Stop cowering like sheep for the sake of being 'tolerant.' This is what your country is becoming while you stay soft and weak. See the streets of NYC a few weeks ago 13 years after there peaceful religion reshaped the NYC skyline and destroyed the lives of thousands. http://pamelageller.com/2014/09/photos-nyc-muslim-day-parade-2014-pro-terror-march.html/
Pamela Geller? LOL seriously man?
 
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Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
That being said, the leaders if ISIS are criminal, gangster, rapist, terrorist scum that should be eradicated like lice...
Absolutely! But instead we do their bidding, fund their conquests through never-ending taxation and unquestionably obey their laws and believe their fairy tales without a hint of skepticism.... hide
 
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Originally Posted By: R80RS
More on Australian police breaking up a beheading plot today. It can happen anywhere these days, why not in Canada? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-18/an...risbane/5752002
800 Police simultaneously raid a number of "credible" targets' 15 people taken into custody. final wind-up 1 person charged. But we don't advertise that with nearly as much gusto as the raid, if at all. Prime minister is in media saying that it wasn't a cynical attempt to bolster support for the new anti-terrorism legislation that was being put to Parliament at the time,and that the Police were acting on "credible" evidence that they had at the time... cynical stunt ??? hmmmm... reminds me of 13 years ago give or take, with the US parrotting Brit "intelligence", who were parrotting US intelligence, Oz on the sideline like a Spike and Chester cartoon "how about beating up a cat, would you like that Spike ??? huh ???" In the wash-up, fingers pointed at the other accomplices "but they thought it too !!!"
 
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10 people killed 29, and injured 130, with nothing but knives in China. It's not hard to commit a serious terrorist attack with simple implements.
 
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Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: R80RS
More on Australian police breaking up a beheading plot today. It can happen anywhere these days, why not in Canada? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-18/an...risbane/5752002
800 Police simultaneously raid a number of "credible" targets' 15 people taken into custody. final wind-up 1 person charged. But we don't advertise that with nearly as much gusto as the raid, if at all. Prime minister is in media saying that it wasn't a cynical attempt to bolster support for the new anti-terrorism legislation that was being put to Parliament at the time,and that the Police were acting on "credible" evidence that they had at the time... cynical stunt ??? hmmmm... reminds me of 13 years ago give or take, with the US parrotting Brit "intelligence", who were parrotting US intelligence, Oz on the sideline like a Spike and Chester cartoon "how about beating up a cat, would you like that Spike ??? huh ???" In the wash-up, fingers pointed at the other accomplices "but they thought it too !!!"
Looks like there are extremists on both sides now. Now some innocent Muslims in Australia are getting caught in the crossfire. What doesn't make sense though is when their leaders complain that there is another invasion taking place in the Middle East. The current administration has not wanted to get involved in Libya, Syria or Iraq and when they or other western countries finally get involved, partly for humanitarian reasons, all you get are some Muslims who complain about invasions. I remember hearing Muslims complain when the west didn't intervene in Bosnia. Seems like you're dammed if you do, dammed if you don't.
 
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ISIS has little to worry about as long as they don't call themselves "The Redskins" and/or don't find themselves on TMZ beating their wives or kids. Folks are more worried about the antics of their football heroes than they are about what's going on with ISIS. ISIS really doesn't need to do anything but wait until we implode from being focused on all the wrong things.
 
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What's preventing a person or multiple cars from driving up to the departure / arrival area of LAX or JFK airports and setting off suicide car / truck bomb s like we had in Oklahoma City ???? All law enforcement agencies from top (federal) to bottom (local police) will be asking how could this of happened after 9-11 towers.
 
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Originally Posted By: Mystic
This is the last time I will attempt to explain the difference between a terrorist organization and ordinary murderers, cults, etc. Not so many years ago 19 terrorists were able to murder almost 3000 people in the USA and cause probably in excess of a trillion dollars worth of damage. Sure, some weird cult could potentially do the same. As was pointed out a cult in Japan attempted to kill a large number of people using poison gas. Although that cult with its resources and number of members could probably be considered for all practical purposes a terrorist organization. There are different kinds of terrorists. A lone wolf terrorist might be able to kill only a few people. When the leading nation state that supports terrorism obtains nuclear weapons far larger numbers of people could potentially be killed. Maybe at that point some people here might be able to understand the difference between terrorist organizations and serial killers or cults. It is unlikely that a serial murderer or even a cult would be able to obtain nuclear weapons. But nuclear weapons could potentially be supplied to a terrorist organization. Very recently 15 individuals were arrested by some 800 police in Australia. Those individuals were apparently going to behead people on the streets and put the videos on social media and the internet. There has already been a public beheading of a British soldier in England which was video recorded. If some people here are unable to understand the danger terrorist organizations represent to countries like the USA, Canada, etc., than this is as far as I am going to go to try to explain the danger. As long as the people who have to deal with the terrorist organizations understand what is going on that is all that matters. Some people at an internet website arguing over the difference between serial killers, cults, and terrorist organizations is not important.
Thanks for the history lesson and straw man arguments I never made or said, but I'm pretty well versed in the subject. Terrorists do what they do because they want obsessive fear mongering and pants-wetting. Yes, 19 hijackers did do enormous damage largely because the feds and the dolt in the Oval Office were largely asleep at the wheel despite, in the paraphrased words of the 9/11 Commissions (which I've cover to cover), the "lights were blinking red" in the summer of 2001. Terrorism is largely a law enforcement problem domestically and yes, ISIS is a concern. But of course, they want you to be obsessively fearful of an organization that controls mostly the [censored] parts of the Middle East in the impoverished Sunni parts of Iraq and Syria. They were allowed to do so by an ineffectual and corrupt Iraqi gov't and their cache of U.S. arms that were never fired and only dropped once... ISIS is like al Qaida of Iraq: an effectively self-destructing organization that alienates everyone and has even made us strange bedfellows with Iran. Soon, the Baathist (secular, pan-Arab Nationalists) will get sick of their revisionist medieval tyranny and cut their throats...
 
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