India's first homegrown aircraft carrier
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Owen Lucas
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Indian Army Mistakes Planets for Enemy Drones
Here’s a point I’ve made eleventy-bajillion times: People aren’t familiar with the sky. This is understandable, and generally curable—go out and look...
Indian Army Mistakes Planets for Enemy Drones
Here’s a point I’ve made eleventy-bajillion times: People aren’t familiar with the sky. This is understandable, and generally curable—go out and look...slate.com
Apparently our guys make all kind of identification mistakes as well.
It is becoming way too costly.
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It's hard to take a country seriously when all they have is ski jump aircraft carriers. Full catapult or nothing.
You are singing my tune. Aircraft carriers are the WWII Battleship. Our carriers and planes are valued close to 200 Billion. These carriers have a big bullseye painted on them. And 5,000 men per carrier?? Insane.
I love Fast attack subs. The newer class Block IV will carry 40 Tomahawks each. Air Dominance is harder and harder to achieve bc of anti-aircraft systems. But we'll have to dream on. The more toys the Navy gets the the more they will continue to get.
Carriers are powerful and expensive. We can send destroyers and cruisers anywhere but wherever a carrier goes there is the carrier group that goes along for defense and supply.
We seem to keep building bigger and bigger carriers while everyone else is going smaller
We seem to keep building bigger and bigger carriers while everyone else is going smaller
Big problems if it gets hit by just 1.
We have a large defense budget and are doing both. The new Constellation class frigate, light amphibious warship, LUSV, etc. The Marine Corp is ditching tanks, etc. We also actually do have smaller carriers of a sort (see LHA 6) which is basically the same displacement as this Indian ship.We seem to keep building bigger and bigger carriers while everyone else is going smaller
Carriers present unique challenges both in terms of how to defend them, and in terms of what they require of the enemy. Having to defend them is a good problem to have
jeff
true except red china is no banana republic. gunboat diplomacy was just that, not ship of the line, capital ship diplomacy that was employed to keep the peace with third-rate powers.
a smaller, lha-sized, aircraft carrier with a ski ramp, embarking one composite air unit of stol turboprop (super tucano?) and rotary-wing attack and isr aircraft, and uav, might be a wiser use of scarce resources for gunboat diplomacy or counter insurgency/contingency operations. we used u-boat hunter-killer groups based around “jeep” aircraft carriers to great effect for a similarly limited, specific purpose in the north atlantic starting in 1944.
regardless of what we use, what should worry us most is our industrial capacity, procurement timelines and fighting spirit. i don’t know if such is true, but if indians don’t worry about gender pronouns and can produce any aircraft carrier on-time, on-budget, more power to them.
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We have a large defense budget and are doing both. The new Constellation class frigate, light amphibious warship, LUSV, etc. The Marine Corp is ditching tanks, etc. We also actually do have smaller carriers of a sort (see LHA 6) which is basically the same displacement as this Indian ship.
Carriers present unique challenges both in terms of how to defend them, and in terms of what they require of the enemy. Having to defend them is a good problem to have
jeff
I don’t think the new Constellation frigates have even started up yet. Aren’t those supposed to take the place of the failed LCS ships?
They'll get it sorted out. I have more faith in the USN than in India's Navy.
They're just starting construction of the first one now, though delivery isn't until 2026 if reporting is correct. Different mission than LCS but it does fill the same smaller/cheaper than a DDG role.
jeff
Just what that country needs. An aircraft carrier to go with their nuclear capability.
Besides 2 Delhi class destroyers flanking whats an Indian Carrier battle group look like?
We know the Brahmos anti ship missile is pretty wicked.
Indian ground based guys are pretty good pilots with skilled planning and good tactics, they sent a bunch of our guys down in 04 sim games and apparently surprised the snot of them.
We know the Brahmos anti ship missile is pretty wicked.
Indian ground based guys are pretty good pilots with skilled planning and good tactics, they sent a bunch of our guys down in 04 sim games and apparently surprised the snot of them.
