It’s a public venue, so the question is can the venue discriminate against anyone they chose?
I thought that was settled decades ago and I suspect will be revisited, it would be interesting.
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Incredible story about facial recognition and how far it’s gone
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I thought that was settled decades ago and I suspect will be revisited, it would be interesting.
I have a tough time with that. “See” as in measure various forms of radiation? maybe…
I have to wonder just who starts these rumors. Tinfoil hat people, or actual military people who want us to believe that they have this capability… as some sort of deterrent or otherwise.
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It was a pain during the mask saga - I just got a new SE for the thumb button and something lightweightSlightly off topic, but beware of using facial recognition to unlock your phone. A buddy of mine did, and had a full beard. Then he had to shave clean for a play he was in. Well, his face didn't match what the phone knew, so he was locked out.
(and cost - have a company phone + 2 iPads too)
I got a facial recognition phone right about the time the mask mandate came out… so many times I went to unlock it and the phone didn’t recognize my mask…Slightly off topic, but beware of using facial recognition to unlock your phone. A buddy of mine did, and had a full beard. Then he had to shave clean for a play he was in. Well, his face didn't match what the phone knew, so he was locked out.
We're looking at changing our software that will have this capability. Face recognition was actually been out for a long time. Wouldn't think it would be good business decision to deny all the attorneys and in turn family/friends etc but I'm not rich so...
Physics suggests that is silly…
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Generally, the person trespassed must receive a formal form of notice. If gov't send it via USPS it is often enough bu
It's already sliding down that steep icy slope. Younger generations don't see the issue or the almost guaranteed gov't overreach. Astro brought up the massive cameras in place in Great Britain. As he stated, nothing new. But creep happens and the British have arrested over 3k people in a year for social media posts. Point is, they are tracking everything and everyone. Penalties are usually a fine but some have been required to wear something akin to an ankle bracelet. Controlling thought coupled with a heavy emphasis of controlling the language we should speak never leads to anything positive.
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That was my thought at first. While not the same it is mind-blowing (at least to me) that mil sats in the 70's were supposedly capable of reading print of a magazine cover. Tech advances pretty rapidly and that over 50 years ago.
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Sure could be. Impossible to verify. Could also be that "see" is not the traditional meaning like most of use would assume it means.
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As far back as the first knife - things can be used for good or evil - we used to focus on teaching kids that …
….I don’t really disagree with government notices such as IRS and I do get your point for other things.
But in most cases if one is going to be charged with a crime they will need to prove the person received the notice or subpoena, which would be in person delivery.
Example jury duty, it says that the notice is a summons yet it’s not proven you ever received it so “no one goes to jail for not showing up.” (This is not legal advice or a factual statement) LOL
Just something a well known (literally) attorney once told me. How can you show up if you didn’t know to show up?
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I think **** near anything is possible. I spent my entire career as a systems engineer in Silicon Valley. My career started out with punch cards and simple TTY interfaces. When high speed wireless technology came out it seemed mind blowing. I don't think technology that eavesdrops your thoughts are impossible. After all, doesn't a lie detector already do that, although in a much more limited and primitive fashion?
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Slightly off topic, but beware of using facial recognition to unlock your phone. A buddy of mine did, and had a full beard. Then he had to shave clean for a play he was in. Well, his face didn't match what the phone knew, so he was locked out.
That should not have happened. Must have been an Android device. Apple will ask for the passcode if there is a major change like that.
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I can speak for NY. At shoplifing scenes (Penal Law Misdemeanor; Petit Larceny) often charges are refused and a verbal trespass notice provided the offender. Shop owner must send written letter to police chief for us to have on file. No formal written notice provided offender. THe need for that is mitigated via body camera. THe written notice is requred for us to make a Penal Law arrest for trespass.
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Lie detector is obsolete...CVC is what is used now. Insane how accurate it is IF the user has the right training. But yes, tech is crazy.
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I guess i don't see it that way, IMO a lawyer (or any other employee of for that matter) for a firm that has a suit against you is a perfectly valid reason to exclude someone. There are all sorts of reason a Lawyer for such a firm may want to enter an establishment and if i was a firm i would chose someone not directly associated with the case. If i was a property owner and had the means i would exclude all personal that i could associated with the litigation.
He is not excluding (presumably based on the story) all lawyers, He's excluding lawyers associated with firms which have active litigation against his companies. that's a big difference and not discrimination.
Discussion is good my personal feel is this is not cut and dry but who knows, public opinion is also a strong motivator for better or worse.
Either way many companies would not risk a public relations nightmare kicking Girl Scout mom out of a Christmas Show except for a Nolan company. I know everyone loves him for his cable TV company. (Sarcasm)
For those interested read this through. That means TO THE END
https://www.business2community.com/...use-service-businesses-discrimination-0766551
Either way many companies would not risk a public relations nightmare kicking Girl Scout mom out of a Christmas Show except for a Nolan company. I know everyone loves him for his cable TV company. (Sarcasm)
For those interested read this through. That means TO THE END
https://www.business2community.com/...use-service-businesses-discrimination-0766551
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Biometric unlocks for phones are not secure. They might unlock for a different photo or fingerprint, and they might not unlock for your own. Also, their security is also legally questionable, not the same as a password. If your phone is ever taken for evidence, in some cases, you can be compelled to provide a biometric unlock (consciously or unconsciously) whereas you cannot be compelled to provide a password, because the latter requires a mental act of will to disclose, which is legally protected.