Wow, I don't think I would do that.I drove my new car home and drained out the 20 grade that it came with. I then replaced that with Mobil 1 0w30 for better moft and wear protection. I also changed out the original filter with a new OEM one. My OCI will be 5K miles or 6 months, whichever comes first.
Can save him a phone call. No Toyota dealerships use TGMO unless you ask for it specifically (and pay more). They use whatever is the cheapest bulk oil they can get.I ordered the Amsoil before we picked up the car, just to make sure I had it on hand for its first oil change.
My local Honda dealership uses bulk Pennzoil Full Synthetic for their oil changes. You might want to call yours and ask if they use bulk or bottles of Toyota-branded oil, and if bulk, what brand.
TOYOTA is embedded within the ILSA committee.Can save him a phone call. No Toyota dealerships use TGMO unless you ask for it specifically (and pay more). They use whatever is the cheapest bulk oil they can get.
I have had three subarus develop engine knocking in less than 1k miles. One started on the way home, LOL.Wow, I don't think I would do that.
Maybe 1000 miles
I would check out @Glenda W.'s experience here. You might be able to get to 60 or 100k before you burn oil with that setup. (I believe have a similar engine. Maybe NA vs turbo though.)Subaru Forrester Wilderness...Change oil and filter at 1000 then every 5000. Mobil 1 0w30 with Tokyo Roki filter... and a new crush washer
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Ok.TOYOTA is embedded within the ILSA committee.
TGMO has been defined as the contemporary ILSAC spec (or JASO GLV-1 for 0W-8) in the indicated grade.
Any brand with the Starburst.
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I know it's been explained before, and my dad even explained it to me. But I always found it interesting that Subarus sound like air cooled VWs when they get older.I have had three subarus develop engine knocking in less than 1k miles. One started on the way home, LOL.
Dealer Tech on a ride along used this excuse for my concern, "Well the base model Foresters don't have much insulation"
My wife drives them under warranty and we let them knock away.
Personally I could not stand that horrendous engine racket in my car.
Yes, I'm not going to bother to repost it, since I was informed that I have to provide a short literary masterpiece as an accompaniment to each slide, lest it irritate the scrotum of the copyright Gods who would then come down on the forum with the force of 10,000 Hiroshimas, driving it straight into oblivion and we all would surely perish, being well within the blast radius (except perhaps @Shannow, as Oz is likely far enough away).It’s talked about a lot here in multiple threads. Probably a search will bring up a ton. Basic breakdown is GTL/PAO/Ester formula(excluding 5W-30 version) with some great approvals. @OVERKILL posted a chart (but was removed) from Porsche breaking down the different ESP’s. Excels in wear protection and engine cleanliness in high performance and normal engines.
I know. I Just want random lurkers and readers to understand that Toyota service can install any ILSAC GF-Xx spec oil in the recommended grade and call it Toyota Genuine Engine Oil on the R.O.
Yes, they're just trying to make them sustainable.0%
Everything is trash, overpriced, ugly and specifically designed to not be user repairable at best, designed to fail around 100k to 150k miles at worse.
Ok thanks for clarifying. I did not understand that from your original post. That is helpful. I knew that they used any old bulk oil they can get cheaply that is API and ILSAC certified, but didn't know that they could also call it TGMO.I know. I Just want random lurkers and readers to understand that Toyota service can install any ILSAC GF-Xx spec oil in the recommended grade and call it Toyota Genuine Engine Oil on the R.O.
Now is it true that the current TGMO offering does NOT contain the extra high moly dosage (and other boundary lube protection goodies) that many may be expecting with XoM's TGMO?
Maybe now only seen in the latest 8 and 16 grades?
I am trying to recall the latest VOA without doing a search ...
Thanks - Arco
Is an analyst helping you with that?I no longer sweat those details...
Trying to de-analize myself these days...