If Oil were to be ranked TODAY would M1 be Average

[Audi Junkie]

Originally Posted By: BobFout

I said wear, not an increase in wear metals (those are not always the same thing).

This engine was taken apart and examined?


lol, not many people tear down their engines after every oil change. If you would like to do that, fine with us but shy of that lofty goal, UOAs are well established tools for indirect examination of engine wear.

Where do you think the metals in the used oil come from anyway? What about UOAs that are remarkably consistent, with WEAR METALS coming in exactly the same mg/kg after 1000s of miles? How do you account for that?

 

[Summerwind]

One would think that the Mobil 1 bashers on this site were have the oil "forced down" their throats or something..LOL

 

[Gary Allan]

Originally Posted By: Summerwind
One would think that the Mobil 1 bashers on this site were have the oil "forced down" their throats or something..LOL


Well, one could also conclude that M1 lovers stash the stuff in their wife's fancy lingerie drawer. They sure can act like you're poking around in there with greasy paws when it comes up for review.

 

[Summerwind]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Originally Posted By: Summerwind
One would think that the Mobil 1 bashers on this site were have the oil "forced down" their throats or something..LOL


Well, one could also conclude that M1 lovers stash the stuff in their wife's fancy lingerie drawer. They sure can act like you're poking around in there with greasy paws when it comes up for review.

Agreed on both accounts Gary

If you like it, use it, and dont force it down someones throat, and if someone else doesnt care for it, dont take it personaly

 

[jsw]

Just curious how come we always compare M1 to P.Ultra or C.Edge? Shouldn't the comparion be between M1 EP to Ultra or Edge? Isn't M1 EP the flagship oil for Mobil?

 

[HangerHarley]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Originally Posted By: Summerwind
One would think that the Mobil 1 bashers on this site were have the oil "forced down" their throats or something..LOL


Well, one could also conclude that M1 lovers stash the stuff in their wife's fancy lingerie drawer. They sure can act like you're poking around in there with greasy paws when it comes up for review.

This is Extra Funny because it is True

Only thing missing is the UOA Analysis from the M1 from there.

 

[daman]

Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie


Easy.

Funny how we can find what we want to find.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...rue#Post1897113

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...rue#Post1919071

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...rue#Post1928547

 

[Nickdfresh]

Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/1724762/

Here`s that RP vs M1 camshaft thread where the M1 cam showed more wear whereas the RP cam showed none.


Do I have to read through that whole thing? I mean, really?

 

[aquariuscsm]

Now here`s an awesome M1 15W50 UOA,my fave M1 flavor :^)

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/249929/

 

[HangerHarley]

Originally Posted By: daman
Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie


Easy.

Funny how we can find what we want to find.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...rue#Post1897113

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...rue#Post1919071

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...rue#Post1928547


I never said M1 wasnt Good. I was suggesting that more Advanced, Better (is this word Ok?) Oils were around. Some wont even acknowledge the Possibility, after a Decade or so.

In the end, it all goes back to the "Some Oils work better in Some Cars." Grade and Specific Formulations included. I also seem to gather that Additives are per Individual taste, guided by Experiences, good or bad, and possibly unnecessary, however Helpful.. If not in Fact, then in Spirit.

Mobil 1 also seems to have more Honest Marketing than AMSOIL. Never saw any Laughable Test come from M1.. Plenty from AMSOIL Folk.

And, Yes, All this info came from BITOG! Various Threads, over years. Not much Googling done on my part. All researched right here!

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: HangerHarley
Originally Posted By: daman
Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie


Easy.

Funny how we can find what we want to find.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...rue#Post1897113

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...rue#Post1919071

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...rue#Post1928547


I never said M1 wasnt Good. I was suggesting that more Advanced, Better (is this word Ok?) Oils were around. Some wont even acknowledge the Possibility, after a Decade or so.

In the end, it all goes back to the "Some Oils work better in Some Cars." Grade and Specific Formulations included. I also seem to gather that Additives are per Individual taste, guided by Experiences, good or bad, and possibly unnecessary, however Helpful.. If not in Fact, then in Spirit.

Mobil 1 also seems to have more Honest Marketing than AMSOIL. Never saw any Laughable Test come from M1.. Plenty from AMSOIL Folk.

And, Yes, All this info came from BITOG! Various Threads, over years. Not much Googling done on my part. All researched right here!

Mobil's marketing is first rate, I'd say the best in the Industry, with SOPUS not far behind. JMO

 

[buster]

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Mobil's marketing is first rate, I'd say the best in the Industry, with SOPUS not far behind. JMO


Agreed. I have a new found respect for Shell/Pennzoil.

 

[Drew99GT]

Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/1724762/

Here`s that RP vs M1 camshaft thread where the M1 cam showed more wear whereas the RP cam showed none.


Do I have to read through that whole thing? I mean, really?


No, just look at the pics from post #1687884.

We have that, much other evidence (although anecdotal) that Mobil 1 has lackluster performance, and now 3 competitors stating their products beat Mobil 1 (and one claiming it has ludicrous wear control and doesn't meet basic testing standards).

The Mobil 1 junkies can say they've had vehicles go x number of miles all they want; still doesn't mean Mobil 1 is the top tier product it's touted as. There's simply too much good evidence that it's a lackluster product.

 

[tig1]

This junkie, as you put it, talked to two differant people this weekend and both have well over 320K on their Ford engines, all with M1. One with 5-30, the other with 10-30 with 10K OCIs. Engines are very clean and still running great. I have never said M1 oils are the best(whatever that means)but performance has shown me M1 oils are very good and close to the top in quality. I would say PP, Amsoil and perhaps a couple more are there also.

 

[Gene K]

Its kind of like Valvoline and Mobil Drive Clean back in the SL days. Everyone was sure they were inferior to other name brands. Now every one is sure Mobil 1 is inferior. Im not sure either was/is true.

If you dont like Mobil 1 and the slightly elevated iron numbers make you nervous use something else. If not and you like Mobil 1 I seriously doubt your engine is going to know the difference.

Personally of the GIII (or undisclosed) products on the market I like Amsoil XL but Im not going to pay 2 times the price for it. If I could get it for $3.41 a Qt I would buy it.

 

[Nickdfresh]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
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No, just look at the pics from post #1687884.

We have that, much other evidence (although anecdotal) that Mobil 1 has lackluster performance, and now 3 competitors stating their products beat Mobil 1 (and one claiming it has ludicrous wear control and doesn't meet basic testing standards).


Anecdotal at best, but someone posted it on the internet, so it must be true. Also, we're talking a very indirect comparison of two different cars here from a poster that wasn't here long.

But if you want to pay for the royal premium Royal Purple, feel free...

And I think it's two that stated they beat Mobil 1 in a single test conducted for marketing and advertising claim, which carries as much weight as a Pepsi taste test...

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The Mobil 1 junkies can say they've had vehicles go x number of miles all they want; still doesn't mean Mobil 1 is the top tier product it's touted as. There's simply too much good evidence that it's a lackluster product.


I don't know if it is exactly touted as "top tier" or "the best." Some people feel that way and they sell the most syn by far.