Idaho College Killer Suspect Arrested

[Flashlightboy]

It's only a crime if caught, arrested and convicted. Otherwise, it's just allegations.

There will be one piece of direct evidence that turns this case - his DNA is found under the nails of the victims.

If there's no DNA he can admit to being there, seeing the victims, walking through the blood and most anything else but his DNA under their nails cooks him. It's not against the law to not call the cops and talk to them or offer tips. It's perfectly legal to **** and do nothing.

It may not be the moral thing to do but when your guilt or innocence, and the balance of your life behind bars at stake, you do what's legally right. If not guilty you'll have the rest of your life to think about your lack of morals.

 

[Shel_B]

PS: Leopold and Loeb got Life plus 30 years but Loeb was killed in jail and Leopold was let out after 30 someting years (33 I think....which is disgraceful IMO...he should have rotted in jail for murdering a boy to satiate his vanity). I hope this guy meets Loeb's fate..

PS2: The U of Washington is in Seattle....at the other (western) end of the state. It's Washington State University in the very eastern part of the state that's near Moscow, Idaho.

I thought it was life plus 99 years, at least that was the title of Leopold's book.

 

[ammolab]

The “stalking” cell phone data May just be explained as: It’s a small college town enviornment…I go where they go, because EVERYONE goes where they go. Thst will seem reasonable to a juror or more.

 

[spasm3]

The “stalking” cell phone data May just be explained as: It’s a small college town enviornment…I go where they go, because EVERYONE goes where they go. Thst will seem reasonable to a juror or more.

If its shown to be in close proximity to the victims phones, and correlates near the estimated time of death, its more circumstantial evidence.

By itself , not the smoking gun like DNA under the nails, but enough circumstantial evidence of different degrees. Dog gets enough fleas.

 

[ctechbob]

Its normal protocol for high profile inmates to be put in solitary confinement and on suicide prevention / watch.

Administrative segregation, yes.

Suicide watch, like I said, not necessarily.

 

[ammolab]

If its shown to be in close proximity to the victims phones, and correlates near the estimated time of death, its more circumstantial evidence.

By itself , not the smoking gun like DNA under the nails, but enough circumstantial evidence of different degrees. Dog gets enough fleas.

I would be shocked if he took his cell phone to the actual murder, but yes…DNA on the victims would make “reasonable doubt” fly right out the window.

 

[ZeeOSix]

If there's no DNA he can admit to being there, seeing the victims, walking through the blood and most anything else but his DNA under their nails cooks him.

If his blood is anywhere in the crime scene it means he was there committing the crime. He was not one of the friends that came to the house the next morning. He never hung out physically with anyone who lived there.

 

[Dave Hess]

Administrative segregation, yes.

Suicide watch, like I said, not necessarily.

I should have used the word segregation / PC….. not solitary confinement.

 

[Flashlightboy]

If his blood is anywhere in the crime scene it means he was there committing the crime. He was not one of the friends that came to the house the next morning. He never hung out physically with anyone who lived there.

His DNA needs to be there but if he's been there before, it might offer a plausible deniability. DNA under the nails seals his fate.

 

[ZeeOSix]

His DNA needs to be there but if he's been there before, it might offer a plausible deniability. DNA under the nails seals his fate.

His blood anywhere at the scene also will nail him. I'm betting the police have very solid DNA evidence. And once arrested they can get a direct DNA sample by warrant. That combined with all the other electronic connecting forensic info/evidence will mostly likely get him a death penalty.

 

[Al]

Again, "guilty beyond "reasonable" doubt. He can be convicted without his blood under the fingernails but that pretty much clinches it.

 

[Flashlightboy]

Again, "guilty beyond "reasonable" doubt. He can be convicted without his blood under the fingernails but that pretty much clinches it.

That's what happened in the Scott Peterson case. No direct evidence he was the killer and there was no forensic evidence either.

 

[wtd]

Its normal protocol for high profile inmates to be put in solitary confinement and on suicide prevention / watch.

Correct. That is what we did at the prison I worked at.

 

[wtd]

Administrative segregation, yes.

Suicide watch, like I said, not necessarily.

It depends on the facility and more so if it's the person's first time in jail and/or if they have made any suicidal statements.

 

[ctechbob]

It depends on the facility and more so if it's the person's first time in jail and/or if they have made any suicidal statements.

Lol, that's exactly what I said a few pages back.

 

[wtd]

Lol, that's exactly what I said a few pages back.

You also said that you were not aware of any place that had a policy that put people on suicide watch just because of what they did or had been charged with and that was not true at the place I worked at. We did exactly that. They didn't have to make any statements about hurting themselves. It was a CYA thing.

 

[ZeeOSix]

 

[pbm]

I thought it was life plus 99 years, at least that was the title of Leopold's book.

Yes...you are correct. I was going by (faulty) memory rather than verifying my info. You wonder if the parole board members would vote the way they do if it was their family member who was murdered.

OT: I often read about 'judges' letting criminals out of jail who go on to commit more crime and the judge is never held accountable. It wouldn't be so annoying if police officers (who have to make split second decisions unlike these judges) were given the same benefit of the doubt. I feel that a judge with a record of more than a couple of these type 'mistakes' should lose his/her job.

 

[alarmguy]

It's only a crime if caught, arrested and convicted. Otherwise, it's just allegations.

There will be one piece of direct evidence that turns this case - his DNA is found under the nails of the victims.

A crime took place, the suspect is the accused of committing the crime.
I suspect they have plenty of evidence. Only because initially it was reported as "an abundance of evidence" was at the scene.

 

[Urshurak776]

Like others have said, I'm pretty confident the investigators have all the evidence they need to put this guy away for life (not sure on death penalty, if that Nikolas Cruz punk didn't get the DP in Florida, I doubt this guy will get it. Even if he did, when was the last time this state executed anyone?)

Now, it has to play out in court, so we will find out in like 5 years.

Update: Looks like Idaho did an execution in 2011 and 2012. Maybe there is hope.