Yep, these days that seems like a pretty dangerous thing to do. Any syco could probably have figured out where those girls lived based on all their social media.
Idaho College Killer Suspect Arrested
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I can't help but wonder why he singled those girls out. What the connection is between them all.
A syco killer looks for opportunity, don't have to really know his victims - ie, Ted Bundy mentality. There as also a similar stabbing in 2021 in Oregon, never caught the person but if they have DNA from that maybe they can solve it now if it's related.
He's been arrested and charged with 4 counts of 1st degree murder ... once that happens his name is fair game in all aspects. If they have solid DNA evidence, he will be convicted for sure. DNA is very solid in court ... especially blood evidence in a case like this, and I'm sure they have all kinds of other evidence to boot.
I wonder....
If this guys family members gave their DNA sample to one of those ancestry DNA places ?
I bet... That may be a possibility here.
They can really narrow down a suspect on that alone. It's quite shocking how well that works. The Golden State serial killer got busted by this I believe.
I agree, and also in neighbouring Montana, there is a felon who got the death penalty, but has been on death row for 39 years. The latest hold up has something to do with the use of certain drugs for lethal injection. Certainly a lot has to do with the governors over that time period.
Too soon!
As an active/vocal atheist, one of the questions I frequently get from theists is, "Where do atheists get their morality/sense of right or wrong from without God and religion?" While it's a ridiculously stupid question to me because if the only reason you are going through life doing the right thing is because of fear of ****ation or missing out on the eternal afterlife or because you read the 10 Commandments, then you are a terrible person deep down inside.
It's really very simple. Hurting other people should make you feel bad. Helping other people should make you feel good. There isn't a book or ideology in existence that is going to make someone like the killer of these kids "do the right thing" if he doesn't naturally feel terrible about hurting those kids. He is wired incorrectly and without the ability to place himself in their shoes or attempt to imagine their feelings during their murder or the feelings of the people who love them after their murder. If convicted, obviously this is a man who can never walk free again.
P.S. "D A M N A T I O N" really gets edited out by the website software?
It's really very simple. Hurting other people should make you feel bad. Helping other people should make you feel good. There isn't a book or ideology in existence that is going to make someone like the killer of these kids "do the right thing" if he doesn't naturally feel terrible about hurting those kids. He is wired incorrectly and without the ability to place himself in their shoes or attempt to imagine their feelings during their murder or the feelings of the people who love them after their murder. If convicted, obviously this is a man who can never walk free again.
P.S. "D A M N A T I O N" really gets edited out by the website software?
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Yes I heard that someplace too, we need to be careful about what the media reports at this early stage. In my mind how would they track him with DNA if he was never arrested? They wouldn’t have any from him. I think after the fact now they do have a match after the fact, if they already had DNA he would have been arrested weeks ago,
I give law enforcement credit for keeping this clean and quiet until ready to release what they have to the public.
I was thinking someone might have just phoned in a tip initially about that white car belonging to him and he lived only a few miles away which would be a catalyst to start the ball rolling. People would have known of him and the car,
So what about the accomplice?
He is innocent until proven guilty, but I have a feeling they have the right guy, and he might very well be tied to some unsolved murders.
Law enforcement now using DNA from relatives that have ‘similar’ traits on websites like 23andMe.
https://www.23andme.com/
Sounds crazy…… but very similar DNA / genetic markers can lead authorities to the real suspect, killer, rapist, etc…..
They solved a case in which a rapist DNA was not in law enforcement database (CODIS) , but his sister had her DNA on 23andMe.
https://www.23andme.com/
Sounds crazy…… but very similar DNA / genetic markers can lead authorities to the real suspect, killer, rapist, etc…..
They solved a case in which a rapist DNA was not in law enforcement database (CODIS) , but his sister had her DNA on 23andMe.
When I read that as part of his Criminal Science studies that he had solicited criminals to fill out a survey regarding how they picked victims, how they planned their escape, etc. I immediately thought of the Alfred Hitchcock movie "Rope".
For those not familiar with the movie, it was based upon the Leopold and Loeb murder case in the 1920's. Two wealthy young students who thought they were smarter than everyone else thought they could commit the "perfect crime" and murdered a teenage boy. And they got caught.
It sounds like this alleged killer was another sociopath who may also have decided to see what it was like to be in the shoes of a killer and see if he could get away with it.
He attended college only about 10 miles away from the U. of Idaho and it was common for college students from the U. of Washington and U. of Idaho to socialize. It will be interesting to see if he was known to the victims or just stalked them at random as part of his sick plan. My guess is it wasn't a "targeted" killing in the respect that he had something against one or all of the victims and the fact that one of the victims received more violent wounds may just be that she was the first one killed. Or last one, and at that point the killer was so worked up into a killing frenzy that she got the worst of it.
A sad situation for sure. And yes, evil does exist in the world. Call it mental illness if you like but sometimes people just snap.
For those not familiar with the movie, it was based upon the Leopold and Loeb murder case in the 1920's. Two wealthy young students who thought they were smarter than everyone else thought they could commit the "perfect crime" and murdered a teenage boy. And they got caught.
It sounds like this alleged killer was another sociopath who may also have decided to see what it was like to be in the shoes of a killer and see if he could get away with it.
He attended college only about 10 miles away from the U. of Idaho and it was common for college students from the U. of Washington and U. of Idaho to socialize. It will be interesting to see if he was known to the victims or just stalked them at random as part of his sick plan. My guess is it wasn't a "targeted" killing in the respect that he had something against one or all of the victims and the fact that one of the victims received more violent wounds may just be that she was the first one killed. Or last one, and at that point the killer was so worked up into a killing frenzy that she got the worst of it.
A sad situation for sure. And yes, evil does exist in the world. Call it mental illness if you like but sometimes people just snap.
In the United States it's called Freedom of Information. Our government are employees of the people, its is our information and our right to know who is in custody. The government here in the USA can not pull people off the streets in secret. (Think about that) In the USA if our government incarcerates someone it must be disclosed, if they dont, it's called kidnapping.
You are innocent until proven guilty, your name being disclosed prevents governments from taking people off the street with no accountability.
It also aids in the further investigation of a crime, both for or against the charged person.
Just because the press is corrupt, that is the peoples fault.
In countries where people disappear where the government doesnt reveal if it is them who took the person, somehow never to be seen again. You know, like China, Russia, North Korea, dictatorships.
Crazy people having been murdering people long before the internet.
Any nutcase can hang around a college town, or any bar, they dont need the internet. I am sure they are investigating this guy now to see if we have a serial killer on our hands.
Maybe he is another Ted Bundy…. ?
Boy, I guess we will have the answers in the coming weeks. Kind of creepy of what could be but maybe it wont be and limited to that god awful attack on the 4 and as Pablo mentioned, is someone else involved?
I suspect they have the answers? But, time will tell we know there is way more to the story somehow. Kudos to the police for keeping whatever it is under wraps for now. I kind of have faith they know WAY more than we do and learning fast now with the arrest.
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