I hate new car driver aids

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Stuff like self-parking, collision advoidance, blind spot alerts, they are all for teen girls and low-T guys who text on the road and have no driving skill.
 
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Originally Posted by IMSA_Racing_Fan
Stuff like self-parking, collision advoidance, blind spot alerts, they are all for teen girls and low-T guys who text on the road and have no driving skill.


I have a neighbor with a new Hyundai who was explaining all of these new 'safety' features to me. He looked really surprised when I replied that you would have to be a real idiot to drive that car!
 
I worked in auto insurance before my current job, and these driving aids have nothing to do with masculinity or driving "skill". In fact just the opposite. Lots of "bros" who think they can send one last text to their lady friend while not realizing their pick-em up truck is veering into the oncoming lane.

It has to do with distraction, and lack of care for those around them and their surroundings. If someone had to drive across a mile long single lane bridge with no sides I doubt they would even touch their phone.
 
Wish I could buy a high horsepower car with basic a/c as an option and just a engine/trans computer. Screw all the body modules, climate computers, and internet of things GARBAGE
 
Originally Posted by jeepman3071
If someone had to drive across a mile long single lane bridge with no sides I doubt they would even touch their phone.


That should be the 2020 test to get your drivers license.

Originally Posted by IMSA_Racing_Fan
Wish I could buy a high horsepower car with basic a/c as an option and just a engine/trans computer. Screw all the body modules, climate computers, and internet of things GARBAGE


I agree! Give me crank windows too. Less to worry about. Only other option would be ABS and traction control.
 
Originally Posted by DriveHard
Agree
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I also agree.
not sure why this thread would be locked?
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If the people who say they want base model vehicles would speak with their wallets instead of their keyboards you would still be able to get them. I've been in dealershlps in some capacity since 2002 and one thing has never changed, base model vehicles don't move off the lot fast. Especially trucks. Fleet buyers will special order them and you'll see a farmer buy a brand new base model truck for cash after selling calves in the spring other than that they sit.

The government and insurance institute mandated safety features are here to stay no matter what though.
 
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Hate them as well. Driving up the costs of repairs and insurance for everyone. Body shop next door totalled a new BMW with light front end damage bc the LED headlights were like 3500 a pop. Q5 backed into their garage, $2k drivers side mirror assy. We put a 16 X5 up with all of the gizmos to do rear air bags, we normally lower the car until the wheels just touch, start it and let it run to fill the new air bags, then slowly lower it.Had to reprogram the whole lane departure, active brakes, and emergency assist after bc it freaked out and somehow lost its basic settings. Fun lessons to learn on a customer waiter job.
 
There is a theory that the recent rash of Mustang and Corvette burnout-spinout-pedestrian/tree/jersey barrier crashes are due to the inconsistent nature of the electronic nannies. Drivers turn the traction control off, but both the stability control system and a portion of the traction control remain at least partially functional and/or turns itself back on and the car suddenly grips and heads off in a different direction than expected.

There may be a bit of truth to this. I've always believed the problem was located between the seat cushions and the steering wheel. But even advanced drivers climb out of a smoking crash and exclaim that the car did not behave as predicted.
 
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The big issue is most drivers know next to nothing about cars and how they work. They don't know how the safety systems work, how expensive they are to fix, and how to drive the car with them/with them turned off. Those who don't drive safely to begin with aren't going to listen to safety warnings anyway. Most people who don't check their tire pressure are going to ignore a TPMS light if they look and the tires aren't flat.
 
Originally Posted by Cdn17Sport6MT
That's why I like my '17 Mazda6 Sport 6MT. Only has a rear back-up camera that mostly I forget to use haha...

Sorry, I guess it also has traction-, stability-control + ABS - the latter which I generally do think is worth-while in non-ice / non-winter conditions. Good point though re turning-off the stability-control "aid"...
 
Originally Posted by Taildragger
Originally Posted by IMSA_Racing_Fan
Stuff like self-parking, collision advoidance, blind spot alerts, they are all for teen girls and low-T guys who text on the road and have no driving skill.


I have a neighbor with a new Hyundai who was explaining all of these new 'safety' features to me. He looked really surprised when I replied that you would have to be a real idiot to drive that car!


I'm so glad these features are coming out. Not for you or me, but for all the other drivers that ARE real idiots. The moron with his stereo cranked up and waving his hands to the beat and wandering into my lane. The soccer mom backing out of a parking spot who doesn't check cross traffic. The granny who scuffed my bumper trying to park into a tight spot.
 
I like old cars because less gadgets and simple to operate. Two things I just fit to an old car is an after market radio to play my music and in some cases a rear view camera is nice thing to have!
 
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