Hyundai is ticking on start up

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Had an oil analysis done this spring that said wear levels were normal but there was an unusual (elevated but not extreme, like 0.10% or something) amount of water dilution in the sample. I haven't checked it out yet but there is a thin layer of sludge on the top of the engine through the oil fill hole. I scraped it out with my nail. I have Pennzoil Conventional in it now. We've been having some issues with noises lately such as groaning and now loud whining while accelerating (even revving in PARK does this). I had my power steering flushed and it took care of the groan but the whine is terrible. Timing belt has not been changed for awhile. Now the wife mentioned (which she never does) to my horror that she heard an intense ticking/clicking sound while starting it up and idling the other day. I asked her to elaborate and she said it was like tickatickaticka really fast - like the engine idle but it was ticking/slapping. She said it seemed to go away but the whine could have drowned it out. To me it sounds like it could be a lack of oil to the engine but oil pressure light is not on - and heaven forbid a water pump failure. Haven't taken it in yet but last time mech said the power steering pump would have to be replaced soon. There is also a CEL on. Sigh...
 
Only 87k on that Hyundai Santa Fe and it sounds like it is already falling apart. Not a good showing for the Korean auto maker. I still don't trust hyundai or Kia when it comes to long term durability, they have not proven themselves yet.
 
I consider the Koreans THE CHEAP JAPANESE.And you know how Toyota quality has been slipping....so how bad can KIA/Hyundai be now? I am still seeing visions of Hyundai Excel/Mitsubishi Precis and Kia Sephia....are there any left?
 
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Only 87k on that Hyundai Santa Fe and it sounds like it is already falling apart. Not a good showing for the Korean auto maker. I still don't trust hyundai or Kia when it comes to long term durability, they have not proven themselves yet.


I hear ya man. I dont trust them either. Maybe valve lash could be adjusted.
 
The unfortunate thing is that it is a Japanese sourced motor. That 3.5 V6 was sourced from Mitsubishi. The 2.7 V6 from Hyundai is bullet proof. I had a Santa Fe with the 3.5 in my shop a couple years ago with a similar noise issue. We priced the customer for a tear down to get a look at the cams and cam chains. We also priced a factory reman motor. He is still driving it with the upper engine noise, no codes.
 
Originally Posted By: NHGUY
I consider the Koreans THE CHEAP JAPANESE.And you know how Toyota quality has been slipping....so how bad can KIA/Hyundai be now? I am still seeing visions of Hyundai Excel/Mitsubishi Precis and Kia Sephia....are there any left?


All of these "Korean" cars were powered by Mitsubishi sourced drivetrains. The Koreans' quality improved dramatically when they started building their own stuff.
 
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Originally Posted By: asiancivicmaniac
Aren't they known for noises when a non-OEM oil filter is used?


I've never had an issue using non OEM filters. You're right it could be this but why would it start now when all I've used are puros and napa?
 
Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: zerosoma
There is also a CEL on

May be start there.


Took it in the first time for that. Evap code. Cleared by mechanic who flushed power steering fluid and came back again. Took it to AaaP and it was a loose gas cap. Went away and came back again.
 
Originally Posted By: asiancivicmaniac
Aren't they known for noises when a non-OEM oil filter is used?


Yes, Hyundais are very picky about their oil filter. I'd only use OEM with a Hyundai/Kia. I think the OEM filter is only like $6 at the dealer and very high quality.
 
Originally Posted By: Kool1
Does that engine have a 100,000 mile warranty from the manufacturer?


Yes, but only for the original owner. It's not transferable, so if you aren't the original owner it ends at 5 years/60K.
 
Originally Posted By: salv
Originally Posted By: NHGUY
I consider the Koreans THE CHEAP JAPANESE.And you know how Toyota quality has been slipping....so how bad can KIA/Hyundai be now? I am still seeing visions of Hyundai Excel/Mitsubishi Precis and Kia Sephia....are there any left?


All of these "Korean" cars were powered by Mitsubishi sourced drivetrains. The Koreans' quality improved dramatically when they started building their own stuff.


Yeah - buying ANYTHING from Mitsubishi (or Chrysler) of that era was a HORRIBLE idea.

I had a friend with an 03 that made it to 140K with little maintenance. The transmission started to give up.
 
EOM filter (TSB on using non-OEM filters), and might as well change the oil too if the OC duration is getting close.
CEL check.
Elevated water last UOA.... is the vehicle been getting a bunch of short tripping?. Get a good highway run.
 
Originally Posted By: KD0AXS
Originally Posted By: Kool1
Does that engine have a 100,000 mile warranty from the manufacturer?


Yes, but only for the original owner. It's not transferable, so if you aren't the original owner it ends at 5 years/60K.


Not quite true.If you buy a certified car you get the balance of the 10 year/100,000
I just bought a '10 Certified Elantra with 48k on it.I got the balance of the 5 year/60,000 also.
 
I have an accent it's a 2004 with 140,000 I love that little commuter.. I use a Purolator classic and Pennzoil Conventional 5w30.. Timing belts done at 60k serpentine belts done with the timing belt. Some brakes and tires that's all I have done. I do the oil every 3000 or 3 months
 
Whining could be from alternator bearings. I'd go with OEM oil filter as others have suggested and see if it improves from there.
 
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