Hybrids

All's eyes can say is my Toyota 2024 R4 shi*s and Gits!
When I step in it that little 2.5 goes pretty good for my needs. And then we're in traffic becomes the usual stop and go nowhere I hit 50 MPG.
This is our experience too. Look I don’t love CVTs, but the modulation they worked into this one’s programming is superb. And the rear motor does work. It doesn’t do anything at cruise, but it responds sharply to throttle transitions. Especially in a hard launch into a turn, the rear axle in our will scratch off. The end result is nimbleness.

@ATex7239 - man I had one of these as a rental and LOVED it. Somehow they figured out hybrid drive, turbo lag, auto-stop-start, and made it seamless. Turbo 4banger hauling that thing around via basically an electromagnet with gears? Smooth and potent.
 
This is our experience too. Look I don’t love CVTs, but the modulation they worked into this one’s programming is superb. And the rear motor does work. It doesn’t do anything at cruise, but it responds sharply to throttle transitions. Especially in a hard launch into a turn, the rear axle in our will scratch off. The end result is nimbleness.

@ATex7239 - man I had one of these as a rental and LOVED it. Somehow they figured out hybrid drive, turbo lag, auto-stop-start, and made it seamless. Turbo 4banger hauling that thing around via basically an electromagnet with gears? Smooth and potent.
You probably didn’t feel any turbo lag cause it’s natural aspirated. 🙃
 
My wife and I decided to reduce the size of our fleet so over a few months we sold the 1999 Sahara, the 2009 Clubman and the 2015 X1- and replaced them with a 2021 Sahara 4xe. As our gravel driveway is @1,200 feet long and runs beside and through a forest we need one vehicle with true off-road capability. So far so good; aside from a couple of recalls it has been trouble free and it usually averages at least 40 mpg. It runs 0-60 in the mid fives and the quarter in just over fourteen seconds; not a rocket ship but really good for a 5,000 pound SUV with the aerodynamics of a brick. My wife is the primary driver and loves it.
Me, I don’t see a PHEV vehicle in my future; the only two I find interesting are the CLE 53 and E 53- but I have a problem with sport coupes and sport sedans that weigh 2.5 tons or more. And yes, I know about the M5, but weight aside, I’m not a fan of the Lego/Minecraft exterior design language or the strip mall vape store ambiance of the interior.
Now, build a RWD or rear-biased AWD PHEV coupe or sedan that weighs less than 2 tons, has 50-50 weight distribution and runs the quarter in 12 flat and we’ll talk.
 
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