Hybrid fobia is marginalized

[The Critic]

The driving dynamics of the Gen 2 Prius were quite compromised, but the Gen 3 is definitely on-par with most B and C-segment cars.

I have 55,000+ on my 2011 Prius with no repairs. I did replace my rear shocks last weekend as the ride was getting rough and the rear-end would not behave around sharp corners, but it has otherwise been a solid car.

While I do have complaints about the build quality of the interior, the inconsistent fuel economy (varies between low 40s to high 40s, more so than a conventional car), and the lousiness of the suspension, I think it is a car that should suit the average American quite well.

Also, the cost argument is really just bunk because the average transaction price of a C-segment car is now in the low 20s. A base-model Prius can be purchased for under $24k, so there's hardly a premium at all.

 

[antiqueshell]

Fact is that that huge battery costs more to build, uses more raw materials, and is more difficult to recycle than the typical standard car battery.

Prius has TWO engines! Again more materials to make each.

Of course I haven't mentioned the energy at the various plants needed to make those specific Prius parts.

Those green sites that he referred to are not biased at all, right?

LOL

Who buys a base model Prius? It probably has to be ordered, the typical Prius on the car lot new costs many thousands more than the Corolla. It will take the average owner of the Prius many more years to recoup their costs compared to the owner of the Corolla.

 

[sciphi]

LOL, haters will hate.

The next car my wife and I purchase will be capable of 40+ mpg highway so we have two 40+ mpg highway cars in the driveway. Whether that's a hybrid or full electric remains to be seen. Our next car is a long ways off!

 

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Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Fact is that that huge battery costs more to build, uses more raw materials, and is more difficult to recycle than the typical standard car battery.

Prius has TWO engines! Again more materials to make each.

Of course I haven't mentioned the energy at the various plants needed to make those specific Prius parts.

Those green sites that he referred to are not biased at all, right?

LOL

Who buys a base model Prius? It probably has to be ordered, the typical Prius on the car lot new costs many thousands more than the Corolla. It will take the average owner of the Prius many more years to recoup their costs compared to the owner of the Corolla.


You're on your own with these mundane, discussed ad nauseum myths you present. Come on now, Ive had better debates when I was in Jr High debate class....

Btw, the Prius has 1 internal combustion engine and 2 electric motors. At least get the basics right.

And I dont know why you are rambling about a base model Prius? And if you buy a 2007 Corolla and a 2007 Prius like I cited earlier, it wont take long at all to recoup the difference. Ive already saved $1200 in the 4 months Ive owned my Prius, over my Envoy that got 15mpg. Ive made $810 in car payments. The car has been free to me, so to speak, in gas savings alone.

 

[friendly_jacek]

Originally Posted By: [email protected]

Btw, the Prius has 1 internal combustion engine and 2 electric motors. At least get the basics right.


Those 2 small motors are inside transaxle and replace complex automatic transmission or CVT, so no extra cost or materials.

 

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Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
Originally Posted By: [email protected]

Btw, the Prius has 1 internal combustion engine and 2 electric motors. At least get the basics right.


Those 2 small motors are inside transaxle and replace complex automatic transmission or CVT, so no extra cost or materials.


Jacek, its like beating a dead horse around here lately, lol. My arms are getting tired... but the beatings must continue until moral improves

 

[L_Sludger]

Originally Posted By: The Critic

While I do have complaints about the build quality of the interior, the inconsistent fuel economy (varies between low 40s to high 40s, more so than a conventional car), and the lousiness of the suspension, I think it is a car that should suit the average American quite well.
I disagree. That's [censored]. I get 50% better fuel economy out of a car that cost 1/8 of what yours did.

 

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Originally Posted By: L_Sludger
I disagree. That's [censored]. I get 50% better fuel economy out of a car that cost 1/8 of what yours did.


1/8th?! Ive GOT to see the math on this one.. Are you comparing a 20xx Prius to a 1991 Geo Metro 2 door?!

 

[friendly_jacek]

Originally Posted By: L_Sludger

I disagree. That's [censored]. I get 50% better fuel economy out of a car that cost 1/8 of what yours did.


Listen, I've got a better story:
I get even better MPG in my bicycle and it was only $100!

 

[The Critic]

Originally Posted By: L_Sludger
Originally Posted By: The Critic

While I do have complaints about the build quality of the interior, the inconsistent fuel economy (varies between low 40s to high 40s, more so than a conventional car), and the lousiness of the suspension, I think it is a car that should suit the average American quite well.
I disagree. That's [censored]. I get 50% better fuel economy out of a car that cost 1/8 of what yours did.

You're comparing my Prius to your Gen 1 Insight?!?! Hardly a fair comparison.

 

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This thread has deteriorated to insulting others = lock time